Posts by safe4kids

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Are Flamers & Atheists More Mature Than JW's?

by Englishman in

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are ex-jws, flamers, agnostics and atheists more advanced spiritually and emotionally than fully-active jws?.

this is how m.scott-peck describes the 4 basic stages of spiritual development.

personally i can relate to stage 3 quite comfortably, but if i talk to a witness who may be a very devout and religious person i often feel as though this person is dragging me back into a lower stage, generally stage 2. what do you think?.

safe4kids

Grave,

Spiritual doesn't have to be about god or religion. The most spiritual feeling I get is when I feel strongly connected to others and to the world around me, physical as well as human and emotional.
I was never much into prayer, altho when I was leaving the JWs, I did pray the most earnestly that I ever had. Receiving no answer pretty much ended my belief in the power of prayer. I also do not have a belief in a supreme being but a very strong belief in the power of love and kindness.

Dana

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Are Flamers & Atheists More Mature Than JW's?

by Englishman in

jw
friends

are ex-jws, flamers, agnostics and atheists more advanced spiritually and emotionally than fully-active jws?.

this is how m.scott-peck describes the 4 basic stages of spiritual development.

personally i can relate to stage 3 quite comfortably, but if i talk to a witness who may be a very devout and religious person i often feel as though this person is dragging me back into a lower stage, generally stage 2. what do you think?.

safe4kids

Very interesting post Eman, thanks for making it.

I, too, recognized the familiar in the first three phases. As for the fourth, I wonder if it's possible to cycle in and then back out again? There have been times when I've felt a deep interconnectedness with my fellow humans, but unfortunately it's not an all the time kinda thing. Perhaps it was just gas, I dunno.

Grave, I don't take the above as gospel, but it rings true for me as well regarding my own personal experience. And isn't that often what we base our belief systems on? What we can relate to and that resonates as true often because we've lived it? Not very scientific perhaps, but human nature methinks.

Dana

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I think I found a place to live!

by flower in

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i'm trying not to get overly excited cause i've been disappointed so many times but i think i have found a place and will be moving in a couple of weeks.

i will be getting a phone call tomorrow either way and all signs point to yay!.

finally i'll be out of this prison forever.

safe4kids

Flower ,
Great news! I really hope that it works out for you; it's wonderful to have some space where you can breathe and be yourself, without having to look over your shoulder all the time.

And I was ROFLMAO at Six and Wendy!

Dana

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Whats wrong with this picture??

by Beck_Melbourne in

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took me a while to figure it out.. http://home.camelot.de/danielt/whatswrong.html

safe4kids

Someone else posted this a few days ago...I'm so glad I had the sound turned down on my 'puter, else I woulda needed to change my pants!!!

Dana

P.S. Just think, if we could email this to a bunch of JWs, they'd think there really are demons on the net! I get warm fuzzies just thinking about it!

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You know you were a little girl of the 70's/80's

by closer2fine in

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friends

1. you wore that rainbow shirt that was half-sleeves and the rainbow went up one sleeve, across your chest and down the other.

2. you made baby chocolate cakes in your holly hobbie easy bake oven.

you washed them down with the snoopy snow cone machine.

safe4kids

Hungry,

Sorry bout that shock thing...believe me, it wasn't a happy experience for me either! But I removed the "evidence" heheheheh (ouch!)

Think,

Yeah, I only got to be married to Heath when your friends weren't around, otherwise I got stuck with ol' boring Jerod

Anyone remember One Day at a Time??! I loved that show...I wanted to be Barbara. It was considered pretty racy for the times, but we got to watch it anyhow (giggle, giggle)

Dana

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TALLYMAN ATTACKS FREEPEACE! THANKS!!!

by FreePeace in

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tallyman has seen fit to make an unprovoked attack on me and my book, "the game rules for life.

what do i say in response?

"hey look honey, another attack on me from someone who doesn't have a clue about me...yawn.".

safe4kids

I'm off to class but I just had to comment:

Hey man, I looked up a Motivational Speaker site which lists the main players in the biz, and wonder of wonder, didn't find your
name there

So unless a person is famous they can't be succesful?? Give me an effing break!

So Doug, obviously you've got it all wrong, my friend. You should be sooooo ashamed! LMAO

Dana

45

You know you were a little girl of the 70's/80's

by closer2fine in

jw
friends

1. you wore that rainbow shirt that was half-sleeves and the rainbow went up one sleeve, across your chest and down the other.

2. you made baby chocolate cakes in your holly hobbie easy bake oven.

you washed them down with the snoopy snow cone machine.

safe4kids

Tab soft drinks!! YES!!! And HubbaBubba, marathon bars...oh god, it's all coming back to me now!

MANTRA: I'm not old. I'm not old. I'm not old. DAMMIT ALL TO HELL!! I must be getting old; I found a grey hair just the other day...and it wasn't on my head!

Dana(of the feeling old and mean class)

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TALLYMAN ATTACKS FREEPEACE! THANKS!!!

by FreePeace in

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friends

tallyman has seen fit to make an unprovoked attack on me and my book, "the game rules for life.

what do i say in response?

"hey look honey, another attack on me from someone who doesn't have a clue about me...yawn.".

safe4kids

Well gee, I guess the board must be cycling into one of those periods of "unrest" again...sigh, I'm getting heartily sick of it myself.

Kent, to my knowledge, Doug has never tried to capitalize on the pain of others to benefit himself. He's offered help willingly and freely to those who are interested in it. As for the website, I could be wrong, but I believe the majority of the people who visit it are NOT ex-jws. And why is this even an issue?? So it's okay that Crisis of Conscience is for sale...why is that? Because you agree with it? Because you've found it helpful? Fine. Good. No problem. Others have found Doug's book to be something they've agreed with, something helpful. Doug deserves remuneration for his work; at least, that's the way it is here in the US.

As for Tally's post, yes I think it was an unprovoked attack on Doug, because he was pissed at Tracy. Big deal. I'm sure everyone involved will get over it. What I don't understand is if you're not into self-help books, why not just ignore it?

Whatever.
Dana

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You know you were a little girl of the 70's/80's

by closer2fine in

jw
friends

1. you wore that rainbow shirt that was half-sleeves and the rainbow went up one sleeve, across your chest and down the other.

2. you made baby chocolate cakes in your holly hobbie easy bake oven.

you washed them down with the snoopy snow cone machine.

safe4kids

Jesus people, how bout not hijacking threads for awhile??!!

Back to the topic, what memories this brings back! Growing up a witness kid, one of the few fun things we got to do was go skating. Often, there would be a congregation type party at the skating rink. I loved it! Altho I was never very good at itI've always had a problem with balance, which I finally accepted at age 34 after shattering my elbow from a fall off of a skateboard. Now I tend to stay off of things with wheels smaller than the ones on my van

Ahhh, the music, the disco ball...those 'couples only' skates.....

Dana

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Can marriage survive infidelity??

by butalbee in

my best friend, jamilynne, comes over this morning for coffee.

i haven't seen her in awhile, guess she had been busy........she's been really busy, i find out today!.

she tells me that she cheated on her husband, with a man she works with.

safe4kids

Detective, I agree with what you said in your post, those things struck me as well.

Bultabee, be careful of black and white thinking. When one person in a relationship is unfaithful, it's easy to blame them and heap support on the other person. However, in a marriage, and especially one that is not new, there are ALWAYS other things going on. It's easy to point the finger and try to make one person innocent and the other guilty, but that just isn't the way the world, and relationships, work. I'm not excusing her behavior. What I am saying is that obviously she had needs that weren't being met in the marriage. Human nature being what it is, eventually a person will go looking to have those needs met. A good marriage counselor could help them uncover what other problems exist, the ones that led up to her affair, and if they are willing, there's a good possibility that they can work things out.

I have to agree tho with the other posters who have cautioned you against too much involvement; you could end up losing a good friend, who might really need your support right now, or even getting badly hurt. Be careful.

Dana