let me add that it's amusing now...as so many things are in hindsight...but at the time it was really stressful.
almost terrifying.. see, i was in my mid 30's and an elder.
i was born-in, from one of those families with a long, decorated history in the thing.
i didn't mind blowing up my entire known life, if i had my girl with me.
it's less scary when you're back to back with someone you can trust.
and 'trust'...man, it's like gold in that process.
That is so lovely Unlearn. Wish you both all the best. Thanks for your honesty it will help a lot of people.
Max, hello and welcome.
i've been out around 20 years (da'd), but recently i've really started to struggle with certain aspects of relating to family members who are still in, as well as my own thoughts and feelings about my upbringing and my personal views about god/life the universe.
i have an older sibling and my mum who are still in.
we are a small family and my dear grandmother, who was not in, passed away around a year ago.
bump
i am off to the circuit assembly tomorrow.
not really looking forward to it as it is the first one i will go to after finding out many things on this forum.
since the last assembly i have read coc, in search of christian freedom, and some of the gentile times reconsidered.
The problem is once you get depressed as I did after becoming physically ill, your self esteem plummets. Then for a sister all she has left is the ministry to make her feel she is a worthwhile person. If she can't do that a woman gets more depressed and feels more worthless and round and round she goes, from my experience. I feel for you both.
i am off to the circuit assembly tomorrow.
not really looking forward to it as it is the first one i will go to after finding out many things on this forum.
since the last assembly i have read coc, in search of christian freedom, and some of the gentile times reconsidered.
I'm so sorry your wife is not well. I think if you are one of those people who, when they ask for volunteers, don't start looking around at other people but think could I do this it is very difficult to say no. When you think that I really believed that people would die without the preaching work, what else could I do? Do you think she is beginning to see what's really going on?
i know what they are supposed to be like.
but at this point in time, do you think the elders look joyful?
are they serious bible students?
i know what they are supposed to be like.
but at this point in time, do you think the elders look joyful?
are they serious bible students?
Absolutely DJS, there are good people who find themselves trapped in that corrupt system. May the force be with you and let's hope the Jedi win.
i am off to the circuit assembly tomorrow.
not really looking forward to it as it is the first one i will go to after finding out many things on this forum.
since the last assembly i have read coc, in search of christian freedom, and some of the gentile times reconsidered.
I'm glad you got through it and didn't have too difficult a time. Of course there is some good stuff talked about or many of us wouldn't have stayed as long as we did but overall, well, as you say, obeying the big stick to pioneer ruined my health.
i've been thinking about something lately that bothers me.
i mean it happened years ago, but it just seems really sick.
when i was disfellowshipped, my sister took all of her pictures that had me in it, cut me out and saved the rest of the pictures.
My mother took down all the photos with me in, including my wedding photo and a baby picture of me with my sisters. Only the fact that I used to visit my father, who was never a JW, when my baby was born that I found out.
i've been out around 20 years (da'd), but recently i've really started to struggle with certain aspects of relating to family members who are still in, as well as my own thoughts and feelings about my upbringing and my personal views about god/life the universe.
i have an older sibling and my mum who are still in.
we are a small family and my dear grandmother, who was not in, passed away around a year ago.
Hi Really?! and welcome. Yes it is so frustrating when everything is blamed on the person who left. They made their decision, JWs will say. They just can't see that they have made a decision to shun their own flesh and blood, they could decide not to shun and face the consequenses, but life is full of consequenses. Personally I feel the world is full of problems, we can give to charity, we can help our neighbours, but the very least we can do is look after our own family, surely? Glad to have you with us.
title pretty much explains it all.
lots of people are getting married at midnight tonight.. what do you guys think?
maybe if anyone gets called on by a jw this weekend you can ask them what they think about it.. im just glad because it shows that religion doesn't define our conscience, that basic human decency can prevail over time and hopefully, these types of gradual but big changes will be present in the wts too in the future .
IVF. Surrogacy. Sperm donation. Third party reproduction.
