Veterans: How do you feel after some many years?
After 25 years I wouldn't even know when it was if I didn't look on this forum. Weird ritual in crazy cult who think they are never going to die. And they think we are mentally diseased!
my first year after more than 20 years.... it seems strange.
happy fellings but at the same times feeling some loniness.. is your first one as well?.
veterans: how do you feel after some many years?.
Veterans: How do you feel after some many years?
After 25 years I wouldn't even know when it was if I didn't look on this forum. Weird ritual in crazy cult who think they are never going to die. And they think we are mentally diseased!
a few official instructions jw delegates are being told leading up to the international conventions.
congregation secretaries are holding conference calls and then relating the instructions to the congregation.. atlanta - do not drive to convention, parking will not be available.
take public transportation; attendants will be on all public transit and able to assist.. dallas - attendants will be on site at all hotels to make sure delegates leave the hotel at their assigned times and take their assigned route.
My poor mom struggled, I don't know how she did it.
I do, well I know why she did it, because of the promises made to her. She was the same as my mother who took four children to conventions, spending money we needed for clothes. All because she thought one day we would have a beautiful big house in the country with a lion on the lawn. How sad.
true believers, whether christian, muslim or whatever, want to convert you, they want you to believe what they do, and they're willing to go to extremes to make it happen.
atheists don't really care what you believe, and don't go out of their way to convert someone.. http://ow.ly/vn1jz an example of what believers in power do to suppress any difference in thought.
http://ow.ly/vraeo an example of why believers want to suppress different ideas (because they can't win in a fair fight, that's why).
Well my little old mother-in-law, 82, ex-JW now Anglican church-goer, isn't trying to convert me away from atheism. She probably finds her belief comforting after the death of her son. It's a sweeping statement to say that most true believers want to convert you to their view but atheists don't. Big world filled with many, many different types of people.
yes, it's that time of year to recognize that southern belle of the great continent of africa, our own loubelle!.
may you have a wonderful birthday and know that you are treasured by myself and many others here.. .
Happy Birthday LouBelle, have a good time
i'm cleaning up my home of unnecessary magazines/newsletters that i have accumulated over the years.
while i was working as an employee i did not feel like i had the time to read them.
now that i'm not working as an employee but work as a volunteer to network and maintain workplace skills, i seem to have more time to read.. after reading many threads by former jws, i thought that the following article might help some to heal.
Interesting that psychologists think it doesn't necessarily mean reconciling with the person, forgetting what they did or condoning it. Just moving on from the anger and the desire for revenge. Yes that's good, I don't think staying angry is good for you. Personally I had to let go of my anger about the cult because it just caused me to have a permanent short fuse and keep losing it with people at inappropriate times like at work. Anger inside of you just seems to keep spilling over when you don't want it to.
I do still have a problem with the word forgiveness. It feels religious to me. I prefer the idea of moving on, getting past the anger, getting on with my life. Good thoughts Robert. We don't want to live in the past, there's too much pleasure and fun to have in the present.
i was 13yo and largely clueless to what was going on.
i think i remember hearing something about an apostate being weeded out of bethel but really couldn't have cared less.
i didn't start getting zealous until a couple of years later.. .
Early twenties, pioneering in the UK. Vaguely understood that 'something' had happened in Brooklyn bethel to do with apostates because the Watchtower study articles kept going on about apostates. Apart from that - pretty clueless.
why are jws so afraid of apostates?
their view of apostates seems to be out of the realm of the ordinary, the natural.
its as if the words of apostates are supernatual or spiritistic as if apostates are some kind of jedi knights who can slightly wave their hands or twitch their eyes and bring one under a spell.
I also think it's something to do with feeling uneducated and vulnerable when facing people who have done research and who might make us feel small and ignorant. I remember feeling that but not wanting to admit it to myself.
i regularly watch family feud.. homeland is a great show i watch every week, when it's in season.. metv has so many great programs---from taxi to the twilight zone.. what do you like watching?
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Elementary, The Mentalist, reruns of Cagney and Lacey from the eighties - pure joy.
if you think about it, for a die hard christian the day jesus was supposed to be resurrected and back in heaven, thereby fulfilling his earthly mission, is a very big day.
all the jws i know never even thought about it.
in fact if i had mentioned it, i bet they would have looked me at strangely.
Did any JWs you know ever think about him being resurrected 3 days later?
I think the reason they focus on his horrific death is so they can say Jesus suffered so much, what are you going to do for him. Which translated means how much are you going to slave for our publishing company.
so manipulaitve.
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http://www.printcentralandsigns.com/jwtalks/covisits/sinutko%20charles%20-%20is%20it%20proper%20to%20have%20doubts.mp3.
He sounds so bored as if he's about to fall asleep. As if he knows what he's saying is garbage.