If it helps when my husband and I DA'd we didn't think of it as following their rules we thought of it as resigning, I think that's what we said in our letter. We simply left an organisation we worked for / belonged to and no longer wanted to work for or belong to.
Xanthippe
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My mother says I should just DA already.
by Julia Orwell incut the cord.
sever all ties.
start new.. and she's right.
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Jim Holt: Why does the universe exist?
by Brokeback Watchtower inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoruuqjd81m
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Stephen Hawking says,,
'According to M-theory, ours is not the only universe. Instead, M-theory predicts that a great many universes were created out of nothing. Their creation does not require the intervention of some supernatural being or god. Rather, these multiple universes arise naturally from physical law. They are a prediction of science.'
The Grand Design, p.18
The first time I read something like this it was in a Robert Heinlein science fiction novel about 30 years ago. I knew scientists have been knocking this idea around for many years but I had no idea it is now totally accepted by physicists.
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Why are JW talks & publications never uplifting?
by thedepressedsoul ini was sitting at the meeting the other night and for the first time it hit, jw talks or magazines are never uplifting!
i rarely, if ever hear a talk or read a magazines and have it give nothing but praise to jehovahs servants or just praise jehovah and jesus throughout it.
they never just a read through the bible or just a bible story explained or told.
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It's a form of terrorism with the threat of violence (Armageddon) being the power base of this religion. If you don't think this is true read the posts of people on this forum who know the TTATT and who still have fears about the big A.
When fear is used as the motivation for so-called morality it is going to be depressing.
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Prince Charles, Cameron and Obama on their way to Saudi
by Xanthippe inwhat do you think of royalty and premiers going to pay their respects at the death of saudi's king abdullah in light of the human rights abuses; public executions and people getting a hundred lashes for criticising islam?
a hundred lashes!
wouldn't that kill someone!
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It's a thousand lashes plus prison is it? Oh God it's like something out of the Middle Ages.
Love Uni the Queen is the head of the Church of England.
Well yes we all need to put petrol in our cars but I'm all for public comment, debate and polemical journalism. Without it even men wouldn't have the vote in this country and the aristocracy would still be in charge as they were 100 years ago.
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Prince Charles, Cameron and Obama on their way to Saudi
by Xanthippe inwhat do you think of royalty and premiers going to pay their respects at the death of saudi's king abdullah in light of the human rights abuses; public executions and people getting a hundred lashes for criticising islam?
a hundred lashes!
wouldn't that kill someone!
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What do you think of royalty and premiers going to pay their respects at the death of Saudi's King Abdullah in light of the human rights abuses; public executions and people getting a hundred lashes for criticising Islam? A hundred lashes! Wouldn't that kill someone!? -
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Your first time on this forum. What were your thoughts and feelings?
by stuckinarut2 inhey all,.
i was just thinking back to the first time i found this awesome forum...years before i eveni joined up and starting posting myself.. i was so encouraged and happy to see that i was not alone!
i was not the only one who was observing the org, and all of its aspects and thinking "seriously?
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I came on here to find out if anything had changed in the Borg after more than 20 years out. I loved the way people laughed at the religion. I associated it with the terrible pain of losing my faith and family but the guys here who make fun of it helped me to lighten up about it which felt great.
I was a bit shocked at how rude some people can be to believers when it was not so long ago that they tried to shove a cult down strangers' throats. I suppose it takes all sorts.
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Thinking about thinking and upbringing
by ballistic ini was thinking about being "brought up in the truth" as opposed to joining.. as a child's brain develops, it builds connections based on what it is taught.
these connections are inseparable from the person in that our thoughts and memories actually become part of our personality (who we are).. a very simple example, might be being taught *not to do something* because it "displeases jehovah".
the understanding of right and wrong is then set in the child's mind and built upon.. there are several points of thought i have about this fact.
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And then I thought, how was my brain originally wired? How have I changed it? What about the period after I was df, how did I survive? Does it explain why some people "go off the rails" ? - Ballistic
Having watched my daughter grow up it seems to me that children just want to enjoy life and whatever happens they try and survive. So I must have constantly tried to be happy in that religion as a child and tried to survive my mother's need to drag me to meetings and cope with trying to be a social animal at school while not joining in with anything.
Unfortunately while I was trying to survive and squeeze some happiness out of my weird life I grew up, totally indoctrinated into the cult. What I find now even after more than a quarter of a century out, is that I just want to play, play, play. I'm making up for lost time, I suppose. However it has taken me a long time to become like this.
At first I wanted to get qualifications, a job, a home, a family and also do something 'worthwhile' blah, blah, blah. Now I think I want to learn how to be a human. The way that children learn, by finding out what makes me happy, what doesn't, what is healthy, what isn't, and so on.
So Ballistic thanks for this topic. I realise that surviving has taken a very long time although much of it has also been enjoyable. Finally I am probably now back to the beginning as far as rewiring my brain, and I'm going to enjoy it. Pass the toys, what do people do for fun around here?
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Why are JW talks & publications never uplifting?
by thedepressedsoul ini was sitting at the meeting the other night and for the first time it hit, jw talks or magazines are never uplifting!
i rarely, if ever hear a talk or read a magazines and have it give nothing but praise to jehovahs servants or just praise jehovah and jesus throughout it.
they never just a read through the bible or just a bible story explained or told.
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My father-in-law's only rebuttal was that "we were getting a window into what it's like a bethel - it's a whole different world and they have to set higher standards so that the world can't pick out any flaws." Even when I emphasize that they had an unprecedented opportunity to build up 1 million JWs all at once, and they squandered it he sticks to this. Basically it was a privilege for us to get to see more of them and they shouldn't have to change anything for us. -OneEyedJoe
They have this whole celebrity thing going on with the GB now don't they? I don't remember it being like this when I was in. They think they're so different from the world, but they just have different celebrities.
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Woo hoo! congratulations! You did it.