Both disorders seem to be about behaviours and rules that make people feel safe in an unsafe world. Which strongly reminds me of religions, isn't that what they're all about?
Xanthippe
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A religion or OCPD?
by Xanthippe ini came across this paragraph about the causes of ocpd and it occurred to me that jws as a religion do reward ocpd traits.
they insist you adhere to rules and behaviours to the impairment of social and family activities.
perfectionism, strict moral code, lack of generosity.. so does this religion cause this personality disorder or does it recruit people who suffer from it?.
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A religion or OCPD?
by Xanthippe ini came across this paragraph about the causes of ocpd and it occurred to me that jws as a religion do reward ocpd traits.
they insist you adhere to rules and behaviours to the impairment of social and family activities.
perfectionism, strict moral code, lack of generosity.. so does this religion cause this personality disorder or does it recruit people who suffer from it?.
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Xanthippe
Obsessive Compulsive Personality Disorder, Fukitol.
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A religion or OCPD?
by Xanthippe ini came across this paragraph about the causes of ocpd and it occurred to me that jws as a religion do reward ocpd traits.
they insist you adhere to rules and behaviours to the impairment of social and family activities.
perfectionism, strict moral code, lack of generosity.. so does this religion cause this personality disorder or does it recruit people who suffer from it?.
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I came across this paragraph about the causes of OCPD and it occurred to me that JWs as a religion do reward OCPD traits. They insist you adhere to rules and behaviours to the impairment of social and family activities. Perfectionism, strict moral code, lack of generosity.
So does this religion cause this personality disorder or does it recruit people who suffer from it?
By the way I disagree with the conclusion of the paragraph, I think all rule-bound societies are dysfunctional.
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Cultural factors may play a role. Societies or religions that are very authoritarian and bound by strict rules may impact early childhood development that affects personality expression. A word of caution: not all rule-bound societies are dysfunctional and OCPD traits may in fact be rewarded within that specific cultural or religious context.
What are the symptoms of OCPD?
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Excessive devotion to work that impairs social and family activities
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Excessive fixation with lists, rules and minor details
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Perfectionism that interferes with finishing tasks
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Rigid following of moral and ethical codes
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Unwillingness to assign tasks unless others perform exactly as asked
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Lack of generosity; extreme frugality without reason
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Hoarding behaviors
https://iocdf.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/OCPD-Fact-Sheet.pdf
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Start A Butterfly Garden!
by Bonsai intime to take a break from debating religion.
take in a breath of fresh air and be healed by the wonders of nature around you.. how many of you have a garden?
how many have a nice flower patch to go with your vegetable garden?
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Xanthippe
I've barely seen a butterfly either this year. We can't keep spraying insecticides all over out fields and gardens and not damage butterflies and bees.
Also it's frustrating that we are being indoctrinated to believe our gardens must be weed free at all times, so get on down to the shop and buy another bottle of poison. Whatever happened to weeding paths slowly? If we kill all the bees we are going to be in serious trouble on this planet.
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At A Loss
by azor inmy wife is in the hospital.
complications of a ruptured appendix.
she had it removed around 1am friday morning.
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Xanthippe
Azor I'm so glad your wife is at home recovering. I feel your pain. When we need our family they have something more important to do I know. It's a mental illness they have, this cult, that's all we can say. Love to you and your wife. Xx
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The J.W fishpond of marriage mates! How many of us married a idiot!! No choice.
by Witness 007 inwhat a horror.
instead of there being "more fish in the sea" our marriage mates came from the small and crapy witness pond.
anyone got burned by going with mr or mrs you will have to do?
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Xanthippe
Of course if cantleave posts that he married an idiot I will take it all back.
I doubt he will do that you are one clever lady.
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The J.W fishpond of marriage mates! How many of us married a idiot!! No choice.
by Witness 007 inwhat a horror.
instead of there being "more fish in the sea" our marriage mates came from the small and crapy witness pond.
anyone got burned by going with mr or mrs you will have to do?
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Xanthippe
Almost married the wrong guy. Got engaged to a bethel boy but cancelled the wedding, even gave presents back. Don't ever be afraid of doing what you know is the right thing for you. Then I married a man who achieved a First in a physics degree after we left the cult and went on to be a chartered physicist. Not stupid at all. Miss him so much.
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What's The First "Worldly" Thing You Did When You Exited The Cult?
by pale.emperor inwhen you finally and officially exited the cult, whether it be by disfellowshipping, disassociating or fading - what was the first things you did that are considered "worldly"?.
for me, it was like crash landing on another planet that looked like earth but was completely different to the earth i knew.
i wanted to learn everything that i thought i already knew.. first things i did:.
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Xanthippe
We went to a bonfire night fireworks display. Such beautiful fireworks. First one I'd ever been to.
Then we waited a year before we celebrated Christmas. Had a real tree delivered, it smelled so good and we put coloured lights on and bought really cheap decorations.We cooked an Xmas dinner and drank a lot of wine. Simple pleasures, how could a religion condemn these things.
We gave each other second hand books and chocolate, it was so much fun. Our new kitten chased the wrapping paper and ribbon until she fell asleep under a pile of paper. It took us a while to find her. Happy memories.
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According to one JW there can only be 1 of 3 reasons why you left.
by Bonsai ini asked an old jw friend of mine why so many baptized individuals leave the jw religion.
"did it ever occur to you, old friend, that maybe they know something that you don't know and have valid reasons for leaving?
", i asked.. his response set me back for an answer.
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Xanthippe
Yeah I left because I wanted to go to all night orgies and get blind drunk every night. Oh and I was stumbled by all the people who didn't want to do that
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Any Others of the "Anointed"?
by Hernandez ini was baptized in 1985, was a regular pioneer, ministerial servant, and on the way to becoming an elder when i left the witnesses in 1999. i also was one of those who claimed and (at the time ) believed i was one of the anointed.. i am wondering if there are any others here who also claimed they were of the anointed?
how did you come to that conclusion?
how do you feel about your claim now that you are out?.
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Xanthippe
Welcome to the forum Hernandez. I'm glad you found a way of life that works for you and having a happy family and great career is evidence of that.