there are many on this site that do not believe that jehovah truly exists; that he is not a real being.
but, he is as real as next breath you draw into your nostrils.. some of you say that there is no evidence that he exists.
yet, none of you can prove that he does not exits.. cofty, (you come to mind), i appreciate that you have stated, without reservation, that you do not believe that god exists.. yet, you cannot prove it.. hope in jehovah..
God hears your prayers as well as what you write on the internet. Think before you write.
This is what worries me about your God, TOTC, you think he will punish us because of what we write. Surely he's so busy running the universe and preparing to bring paradise earth that he doesn't care what we say on the Internet?
Perhaps if he's so good at reading online he should email his new light to the GB because they keep getting it wrong.
back in 1974 my mom fell for the lies of the jws, and became a member, dragging me along for the ride.
i was only around four years old.
that lie she fell for was that in the fall of 1975 she would be reunited with my older sister.
The brain works along well trodden paths through habit, Tameria. If you keep breaking through the barriers eventually your brain will be okay with it and just say oh right so this is what I do now.
The emotion that keeps coming up saying no this is wrong actually takes about 60 seconds to pass through your body. If you let it wash over you and then do it anyway you will make new habits in you brain. I know it feels horrible but you can cope for one minute, ride that wave. All the best.
it's great that the following is officially mentioned in the royal commission's report:.
when asked if the governing body members saw themselves as ‘jehovah god’s spokespeople on earth’, mr geoffrey jackson answered that it ‘would seem to be quite presumptuous to say that we are the only spokesperson that god is using’.
mr jackson’s response seems to be inconsistent with the documentary evidence before the royal commission, which shows that jehovah’s witnesses believe that the governing body is the ‘channel’ by which jehovah’s ‘will’ is communicated to them..
Yeah I noticed the 'it would seem' which they could use to back peddle later to the R+F and say it was theocratic warfare, but using it to the ARC was sheer stupidity. Doesn't the GB think lawyers and judges are trained to recognise this sort of language? They are trained in law for gods sake. They tried double talk on the wrong guys.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/nov/28/jehovahs-witnesses-did-not-protect-children-from-abuse-inquiry-finds.
im printing this off and spending my next sunday morning doing some door to door work posting this article through all the letter boxes of the street my local kh is on.. it's shocking that none of the r&f know about this.
i have a feeling that the 2 witness rule will be revised in 2017 and made to look like it was jehovah's proper time.
Don't kid yourselves, guys.
The Org has given every indication so far that they will not budge on this, and damn the consequences. - Vidiot
Good, because if they don't budge they're going to fall foul of the Australian government when it has perused this report.
although i haven't called myself a witness in almost 15 years, i'm still married to one (which has it's own set of challenges and is fodder for a completely different post).
i haven't spent a lot of time on forums with other ex-jws either, but thought i would throw this question out to you all because it's something i still struggle with.... particularly for those of you who were raised in or were in the religion for many years - what has it been like for you to navigate the work world?
i would be a 3rd generation jw on one side of my family and a 4th generation on the other side -- the hardest thing for me has been just knowing how to act and behave, especially among co-workers.
Hi Minerva I totally get what you're saying. I'm an introvert and despite being out a very long time it is hard to build friendships from scratch when you lose all your friends and most of your relatives.
Most people at work have large extended families and still keep in touch with school and college friends. I don't have any of that because of course I wasn't allowed to have friends at school or go to college although I got a degree after leaving. Well done doing that yourself and getting your masters and then a good job. Brilliant!
I have joined a local group I found on Meetup.com and also a book group. We do meals out, Xmas drinks, pub quizzes etc. I've realised that the people who join, many have been divorced or their partners have died or they're new to the area so people find themselves isolated for different reasons apart from cults.
Also at work events I did sometimes feel odd especially at Xmas because I didn't know what to expect. Just have a glass of wine and try and join in. You might get a taste for it 😀
if in the wts earthly-paradise fantasy, the wolf won't eat no more the lamb and they will be the best friends, will human continue to kill lambs to eat?.
the earthly paradise is vegan?.
It's all part of this desire JWs have to escape reality. No human death, no animals eating one another, no untidiness in their houses, nobody with uncomfortable questions cluttering up their KHs.
hi guys.. "brother" jose is quite possibly the most sinister speaker i've ever seen or heard.
and i've seen/head a lot of cults in my time.. he's over the top with his voice tone and gestures.
i see a future governing body member in the making here:.
OMG the human face of the GB's Thought Police. When I say human ......... Barely, already a Jbot
thanksgiving is really just a nice, traditional, family-oriented day set aside on a national level.
no babylon the great.
give me a break with the holier than thou, "we don't celebrate thanksgiving.
Yeah just like Xmas 'we don't need a special day we give gifts all through the year'.
So no education, no career but we can afford to give gifts all year. More fantasy.
it seems that many times in life there is a moment or an action that changes your whole world.
it could be just a look that someone gives you.. many times it can be something rather small.
something hardly noticeable by anyone but you.
When we moved congregations because we thought it was all a local problem and the letter came through not recommending my husband to continue being an elder. The only thing they could think of to put in the letter was some brothers and sisters say he's not always very friendly. It's true we were both really depressed because we knew something was very wrong with 'The Truth', but how is being depressed a sin?
So when members of the new congregation saw he wasn't appointed because they took his book study group away they assumed he had committed a sin and started shunning us right inside the KH.
We were desolated because people were so cruel and we hadn't done anything. I remember saying to an elder in the previous congregation that I'd given up hoping for people to show me any love I just wanted people to leave me alone and stop saying hurtful things as I had clinical depression. Now it was all starting again.
I think that was probably our turning point. No internet back then but we went to the library and looked for answers in the religious section not having a clue what we were looking for. Just like people go online now out of desperation and find this forum or JWfacts we found Crisis of Conscience. We would never have looked at nonJW religious books but we had been pushed beyond endurance.
i hope you are all having a nice day with family and friends.. :).
Happy Thanksgiving guys. I'm grateful for all of you.
