i just phoned my cousin who's never been a jw.
last week she went with her son-in-law and my jw sister for a meal after planting a tree at her daughter's grave.
she said when my sister was dropped off at her house her husband said you do know she can't have toast.
Yes Listener he was fussing over her as if she's a child so my cousin said. It is lovely that my cousin wants us to get back together, it's just that my sister acts like I died.
I did drop her a note years ago after our parents died asking if she'd like to go for coffee but she had to consult her husband and he decided if might stumble someone. For 'stumble' read someone might tell the elders and he might lose his MS position.
i just phoned my cousin who's never been a jw.
last week she went with her son-in-law and my jw sister for a meal after planting a tree at her daughter's grave.
she said when my sister was dropped off at her house her husband said you do know she can't have toast.
I just phoned my cousin who's never been a JW. Last week she went with her son-in-law and my JW sister for a meal after planting a tree at her daughter's grave. She said when my sister was dropped off at her house her husband said you do know she can't have toast. She knew my sister doesn't eat meat but she thought it was odd. Anyway he said no she can't do a toast when you go for a meal. Why on earth he thought they have a toast after visiting a grave I don't know.
Anyway my cousin thought this 'new' belief was really weird. I told her it has always been a no-no. We couldn't have a toast at our wedding. She thinks all theses rules are crazy. I told her the nonJW husband in a couple who came to my wedding gave us a present to be opened on our honeymoon. It was a piece of toast with a card saying 'a toast to the bride and groom'. I think now he was making a point that it was a silly belief and trying to make us realise we were in a cult. Wish we'd listened then.
My cousin says it's her dearest wish to see me and my sister get back together. Mine too.
it has been awhile since i posted.
but i wanted to say a few things that may help those recovering from the watchtower, especially if you have just discovered ttatt.
it is with humility that i come here to express these thoughts.
Yes I agree no need to run into other belief systems. Catch up on childhood first, with holidays, horror films, family fun whatever we were denied. Otherwise we get stuck in the mindset of a child with a longing for fun and freedom.
i was born in four gen, been d.f.d.
for about eight years now.
my father had always been a true company man, although more times than i can count, he's always been floppy.
My JW family drive me crazy too so I sympathise MTSman.
For once I agree with Nathan you know your situation best. You know the ins and outs of your parents' personalities and how best to treat them. There's only so much a person can stand and you may have reached your limit. Only you know.
why is it that when a jw gives someone a magazine, they use the word "place" instead of "give"?
as in "i placed a magazine with him".
and why do regular door-to-door jws of no special rank refer to themselves as publishers?
We asked for a contribution for the mags, which made us think the org. was making a loss, which was a lie.That's why they emphasised place not sell. Now I think they have to do it to continue as a tax exempt non-profit.
Why were we called publishers? We were supposed to be publishing the good news, whatever that ridiculous phrase means, but how appropriate for members of a publishing company.
for those who became jws, were you fully aware of the societys cruel shunning policy whilst studying?
i absolutely had no idea such a policy existed until years later.
it really only hit home when reading the horrendous stories on the internet around 2002. .
for the born in's, were you fully aware of the shunning policy and it's potential repercussions when you got baptised whilst young?
I knew about disfellowshipping because it's the one question I got wrong when the elder studied with me before my baptism at fifteen. All the other kids there got it right but I said it was for punishment, I just couldn't swallow the 'it's an act of love' nonsense.
So he went over it all again and asked if I understood now but I still saw it as punishment. They still let me get baptised!
When I left home at nineteen my friend in the new congregation, yeah I still went stupid me, was talking about a woman she know whose son was disfellowshipped and she'd said to him he was dead to her. Her own son! I was shocked, I think that was the first time the shunning sunk in. I knew then I could never do that to a child of mine.
i heard my hard out jw sister say that for the 1st time in many years and i'm hearing more and more jw's saying that.
years ago when i was in they talked about the new system coming any minute..
If I live long enough I expect I'll be going to my brother and sisters funerals one day and the speaker in the KH will still be saying the new system is coming any day now. My mother thought we wouldn't go to school. I hope against hope they will realise before then it's all nonsense and we can be together again. Where there life there's hope.
there are many on this site that do not believe that jehovah truly exists; that he is not a real being.
but, he is as real as next breath you draw into your nostrils.. some of you say that there is no evidence that he exists.
yet, none of you can prove that he does not exits.. cofty, (you come to mind), i appreciate that you have stated, without reservation, that you do not believe that god exists.. yet, you cannot prove it.. hope in jehovah..
God hears your prayers as well as what you write on the internet. Think before you write.
This is what worries me about your God, TOTC, you think he will punish us because of what we write. Surely he's so busy running the universe and preparing to bring paradise earth that he doesn't care what we say on the Internet?
Perhaps if he's so good at reading online he should email his new light to the GB because they keep getting it wrong.
back in 1974 my mom fell for the lies of the jws, and became a member, dragging me along for the ride.
i was only around four years old.
that lie she fell for was that in the fall of 1975 she would be reunited with my older sister.
The brain works along well trodden paths through habit, Tameria. If you keep breaking through the barriers eventually your brain will be okay with it and just say oh right so this is what I do now.
The emotion that keeps coming up saying no this is wrong actually takes about 60 seconds to pass through your body. If you let it wash over you and then do it anyway you will make new habits in you brain. I know it feels horrible but you can cope for one minute, ride that wave. All the best.
it's great that the following is officially mentioned in the royal commission's report:.
when asked if the governing body members saw themselves as ‘jehovah god’s spokespeople on earth’, mr geoffrey jackson answered that it ‘would seem to be quite presumptuous to say that we are the only spokesperson that god is using’.
mr jackson’s response seems to be inconsistent with the documentary evidence before the royal commission, which shows that jehovah’s witnesses believe that the governing body is the ‘channel’ by which jehovah’s ‘will’ is communicated to them..
Yeah I noticed the 'it would seem' which they could use to back peddle later to the R+F and say it was theocratic warfare, but using it to the ARC was sheer stupidity. Doesn't the GB think lawyers and judges are trained to recognise this sort of language? They are trained in law for gods sake. They tried double talk on the wrong guys.
