Posts by Xanthippe

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What are your beliefs now, religious/non religious?

by Jules Saturn in

what are your convictions now that you are no longer one of jehovah's witnesses?

are you a born again christian?

have you joined another denomination of christianity?

Xanthippe

Imagine if someone could prove with science and mathematics that they can talk to the dead. That'd be the greatest scientific discovery ever. We could use it to solve crimes, answer questions and advance humanity. But no... "mediums" dont do that. They just charge you £70 to tell you they're getting the name "John" or "Joe" or "Jodie?".

PE, the police forces of many countries consult mediums and psychics to solve crimes. It doesn't matter what you personally believe about their abilities or lack of them but what you say here is lacking the facts. The police just don't advertise it.

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What are your beliefs now, religious/non religious?

by Jules Saturn in

what are your convictions now that you are no longer one of jehovah's witnesses?

are you a born again christian?

have you joined another denomination of christianity?

Xanthippe

Do yo find any questions you had about life finally answered with your new beliefs?

I don't think there's a loving God for the same reasons Darwin doubted, looking at Ichneumondae (sp?) parasitic infections that blind and kill, bone cancer in children, mutations causing sick babies, dementia and so on.

Your question above though I have problems with. When we decide something has finally answered our questions and we stop questioning we are in trouble. Keep wondering what it's all about, don't ever stop. It's a huge universe.

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Lessons learned from the wife of lot drama

by purrpurr in

the video drama shown at the recent comvention was called "the wife of lot".

i noticed some stuble lessons being taught in this soap opera style video.... firstly, all the bad influence comes from women, its the wife and the mother in law whose pushing for more money and a better lifestyle.

while the men remain loyal to god, can't show the men going astray now can we?.

Xanthippe

Bad women! Women are bad

That's all women need to know about the attitude of this cult. Run!

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Phone call with a disfellowshipped relative

by Jules Saturn in

so i call my grandfather who has been inactive for several decades and he's at vacation in puerto rico.

the conversation is normal, we talk about how he's doing down there and how i am doing.

then he tells me that my cousin who i haven't seen in 5 years, is with him and asks if i would like to speak to him; i said yes.

Xanthippe

Sounds like you had a great chat Jules! Finding family again is comforting. Imagine how it must have cheered your cousin up.

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1975 - JWs in other countries, not just the U.S. also knew about the prediction

by deegee in

i have been wondering, if the 1975 prediction was just a rumour started by the rank & file as the wt claims, then how did jws in other countries, a part from the u.s., also come to know about the prediction?.

i started studying with the jws during the 80s when i was a child.

while attending one of my first meetings during that time, a brother commented during the wt study that armageddon did not come in 1975 because it was not known how many years after adam, eve was created.. at the time, i hadn't a clue what the guy was talking about.

Xanthippe

A lot of the instructions on how to live as a JW is verbal, convention talks, CO and DO talks with the net result that the rank and file do what the GB want, sell homes, pioneer, give loads of money to the Borg and later they can step back and say we never said that.

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UK Charity Commision reports on Moston, Manchester Congregation.

by snugglebunny in

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/investigation-leads-to-improvements-in-safeguarding-at-jehovahs-witnesses-charity.

Xanthippe

In this case that they're commenting on, the perpetrator was known and had been dealt with by the authorities. The main issue that appears to have picked up is how the JWs dealt with it after (the face-to-face JC meetings). - Darkspilver

No the last paragraph in the article I quoted looks like the statement the bethel press office made to the Times when they were asked for a comment on the Charity Commision enquiry. All allegations of abuse are thoroughly investigated, yadda, yadda. As Simon says it's a misleading statement to give the impression they're always reported to the police when in fact most, if dealt with at all, are dealt with in their kangaroo courts.

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1975 and the burning question/s??

by UnshackleTheChains in

ok. so i'm sitting there at the convention.

the video comes up about 1975 and the fact that the faithful brother in the video maintained his faith in the bible by adhering to the scripture that says:.

'no one knows the day or the hour as to when the lord is coming'.

Xanthippe

Top down verbal dissemination of beliefs in this cult to indoctrinate people to do exactly what the GB want without any comeback because so much isn't written down. Would people have sold their homes and gone pioneering if they didn't get the message from the leadership that the end was imminent in 1974?

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UK Charity Commision reports on Moston, Manchester Congregation.

by snugglebunny in

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/investigation-leads-to-improvements-in-safeguarding-at-jehovahs-witnesses-charity.

Xanthippe

In yesterday's Times report on this, the final paragraph says :-

The Watchtower Society said in statement "All allegations of abuse are thoroughly investigated and appropriate restrictions are imposed on any person who is guilty of child sexual abuse."

So they're still intending to investigate abuse accusations internally without reporting them to the authorities. What does it take to get through to these people?

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For Christians: What do you think about an Armagedon and the Afterlife

by John Davis in

i don't mean for anyone to get into argument over this, i just want to hear what people believe.i hope that no one will mock or argue with someone else about their beliefs, i know that i won't in this topic.. i still believe in a christian god, not what jws believe, but believe that there has to be something after this life.

i am not sure about how armageddon would go, would it be like how evangelicals believe with a rapture or timing or anything, though i still believe in a form of armageddon.

i do think that all good people will go to heaven but i don't believe in a hell.

Xanthippe

For those who think they have to hang on to Christianity for the hope of 'heaven', you might like to know there are atheists who believe in the possibility of an afterlife from anecdotal evidence of those who have 'come back to tell us', without any necessity to appease a god.

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why jw's commit suicide?

by notalone in

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we all know the rate of suicide is high among jw's.

my question is this- was there some subliminal messages that encourage this.

i was a born in and my entire life i would have these thoughts that could come out of nowhere,"kill yourself.

Xanthippe

I have no idea what your payoff is, but you are beginning to seem more and more like a troll.

You nailed it jp1692. When you remember that this topic was posted by someone who has had serious mental health problems and who was asking the forum for help to know if we've had similar experiences, it's worrying to have the troll arrive again and take it off topic as usual. I hope the op poster is doing okay.