Posts by Xanthippe

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Instructions to remove old WT information from kh libraries

by Half banana in

a pimo friend (physically in mentally out) has just informed me that the cult has decided that they want to suppress all old jw org information by removing bound volumes etc from kh libraries.. in reality, all through their history they have claimed divine "new light" as a means of changing uncomfortable doctrines.

this however would mean that new jws, or more likely these days young jws, will be prevented from seeing the old light which had been held up as divinely inspired truth in the past.. truth which would get you through big a and which if you didn't agree with would get you disfellowshipped.. anyone else heard of this?

what might be the reasons (if true) for removing the old wts?.

Xanthippe

Care should be taken not to discard items that have historical significance. The branch may want to add such items to its library or to its archive of historical material.

So I take it that as a gentle reminder has to be taken as a command from the GB, this means don't let any R+F take an old book home, make sure they are sent to the branch. They don't want any 'old light' getting out. Remember many new converts and newly adult born-ins know nothing about the 1914, one generation to paradise prophecies.

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Spirit directed vs inspired

by Jules Saturn in

i've always been confused as to what the discrepancy is between the phrases "spirit directed/spirit led" and "inspired".

in the february 2017 watchtower study article, paragraph 12 says:.

12 the governing body is neither inspired nor infallible.

Xanthippe

An inspired utterance is we need more money or volunteers to build an assembly hall. Spirit directed is when they get the dates for the end of the system wrong.

I hate that whenever you try to explain this to someone, they look at you as if you have the issue

Thats what happened to me Jules when I was a young person in that religion. I used to ask everyone how they understood the ransom sacrifice teaching. A man being tortured to death for us always seemed wrong to me. They used to look at me as if I was stupid or mad.

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What kind of toppings do you like on a Pizza?

by Iamallcool in

jw
friends

i want something different on my next pizza!.

Xanthippe

When I was in Rome I ordered a salad for lunch and the waiter asked if I would like some garlic pizza bread with it. When it came it was obviously freshly made dough, piping hot and absolutely the best garlic pizza I've ever had in my life.

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What kind of toppings do you like on a Pizza?

by Iamallcool in

jw
friends

i want something different on my next pizza!.

Xanthippe

Mozzarella, tomatoes, olives and sliced red peppers.

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What are your beliefs now, religious/non religious?

by Jules Saturn in

what are your convictions now that you are no longer one of jehovah's witnesses?

are you a born again christian?

have you joined another denomination of christianity?

Xanthippe

Imagine if someone could prove with science and mathematics that they can talk to the dead. That'd be the greatest scientific discovery ever. We could use it to solve crimes, answer questions and advance humanity. But no... "mediums" dont do that. They just charge you £70 to tell you they're getting the name "John" or "Joe" or "Jodie?".

PE, the police forces of many countries consult mediums and psychics to solve crimes. It doesn't matter what you personally believe about their abilities or lack of them but what you say here is lacking the facts. The police just don't advertise it.

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What are your beliefs now, religious/non religious?

by Jules Saturn in

what are your convictions now that you are no longer one of jehovah's witnesses?

are you a born again christian?

have you joined another denomination of christianity?

Xanthippe

Do yo find any questions you had about life finally answered with your new beliefs?

I don't think there's a loving God for the same reasons Darwin doubted, looking at Ichneumondae (sp?) parasitic infections that blind and kill, bone cancer in children, mutations causing sick babies, dementia and so on.

Your question above though I have problems with. When we decide something has finally answered our questions and we stop questioning we are in trouble. Keep wondering what it's all about, don't ever stop. It's a huge universe.

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Lessons learned from the wife of lot drama

by purrpurr in

the video drama shown at the recent comvention was called "the wife of lot".

i noticed some stuble lessons being taught in this soap opera style video.... firstly, all the bad influence comes from women, its the wife and the mother in law whose pushing for more money and a better lifestyle.

while the men remain loyal to god, can't show the men going astray now can we?.

Xanthippe

Bad women! Women are bad

That's all women need to know about the attitude of this cult. Run!

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Phone call with a disfellowshipped relative

by Jules Saturn in

so i call my grandfather who has been inactive for several decades and he's at vacation in puerto rico.

the conversation is normal, we talk about how he's doing down there and how i am doing.

then he tells me that my cousin who i haven't seen in 5 years, is with him and asks if i would like to speak to him; i said yes.

Xanthippe

Sounds like you had a great chat Jules! Finding family again is comforting. Imagine how it must have cheered your cousin up.

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1975 - JWs in other countries, not just the U.S. also knew about the prediction

by deegee in

i have been wondering, if the 1975 prediction was just a rumour started by the rank & file as the wt claims, then how did jws in other countries, a part from the u.s., also come to know about the prediction?.

i started studying with the jws during the 80s when i was a child.

while attending one of my first meetings during that time, a brother commented during the wt study that armageddon did not come in 1975 because it was not known how many years after adam, eve was created.. at the time, i hadn't a clue what the guy was talking about.

Xanthippe

A lot of the instructions on how to live as a JW is verbal, convention talks, CO and DO talks with the net result that the rank and file do what the GB want, sell homes, pioneer, give loads of money to the Borg and later they can step back and say we never said that.

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UK Charity Commision reports on Moston, Manchester Congregation.

by snugglebunny in

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/investigation-leads-to-improvements-in-safeguarding-at-jehovahs-witnesses-charity.

Xanthippe

In this case that they're commenting on, the perpetrator was known and had been dealt with by the authorities. The main issue that appears to have picked up is how the JWs dealt with it after (the face-to-face JC meetings). - Darkspilver

No the last paragraph in the article I quoted looks like the statement the bethel press office made to the Times when they were asked for a comment on the Charity Commision enquiry. All allegations of abuse are thoroughly investigated, yadda, yadda. As Simon says it's a misleading statement to give the impression they're always reported to the police when in fact most, if dealt with at all, are dealt with in their kangaroo courts.