Posts by Xanthippe

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Overwhelmed

by Freedom rocks in

does anyone else feel overwhelmed on what to believe?.

i've been doing lots of research on beliefs, evolution, creationism but i feel no further forward about what i truly believe.

for example i looked at the fossil record and tiktaalic and thought great it proves a lot but then i've seen counter arguments on youtube of people basically saying its a load of rubbish and doesn't prove anything.

Xanthippe

I'm just looking to see if others are doing similar research and are going or have gone through similar motions after they left and where they are now.

It took me a while to realise that JWs confuse evolution for which there is a huge amount of evidence with the origin of life on Earth which nobody has an answer to. They make jokes about how could amino acids have been produced in the ocean from chemicals with just the action of lightning and then got themselves out of this toxic environment to become proteins.

Nobody knows, although amino acids have been produced under laboratory conditions. Warm thermal vents within oceans is one theory now but no one knows for sure. However this has nothing to do with evolution which has been proved. The so-called missing links, transitional species that the JWs make fun of have been found. When I realised these two issues are quite separate I stared to make headway.

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Overwhelmed

by Freedom rocks in

does anyone else feel overwhelmed on what to believe?.

i've been doing lots of research on beliefs, evolution, creationism but i feel no further forward about what i truly believe.

for example i looked at the fossil record and tiktaalic and thought great it proves a lot but then i've seen counter arguments on youtube of people basically saying its a load of rubbish and doesn't prove anything.

Xanthippe

Trees and plants are food and flower factories which function in SILENCE and give us SWEETNESS and FRAGRANCE, and they work for others (not for themselves).

This is not helping Ireneus. Plants and trees use flowers to attract pollinating insects so they can produce seed to propagate themselves. If what you say is true there would be no poisonous plants.

We've learnt not to eat berries, leaves and fungi that harm us by trial and error which must have involved watching loved ones die horribly. Teaching Disney world doesn't help people cope with the real world

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I yelled at dubs today ( again )

by kairos in

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so i roll up to the job site and looky there, two uber pioneer dubs dragging themselves down the sidewalk.

both ladies are in there early 60's and born in.. my heart started pumping, but i had to act.i was directly across the street from them.

i walked right to the sidewalk and said in a very loud, but not mean voice: "you can't teach overlapping generations from the bible!!

Xanthippe

Kairos is going through a divorce from the woman he still loves who only half believes this cult but has chosen it instead of him. I think that would make me want to shout at cultists peddling this nonsense in the streets. I'm not saying I would give into the urge to shout at them but I can see where you're coming from Kairos.

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First year with baby!

by Darkknight757 in

i wanted to share a few recent pics of izabella with everyone.

this week marks her one year since her coming home from nicu.

she has been growing and changing so much these last few months in particular.

Xanthippe

Beautiful little girl! Well done to you and your wife for getting her through. Enjoy every minute, it goes so fast xx

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My stand up comedy two years later

by usualusername1 in

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two years ago i started stand up comedy.

here is a recent video.

thx.

Xanthippe

Very funny, you have great timing. So funny saying you were raised a JW got the biggest laugh! Shows what people really think of it. Keep going you're good.

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The rise and rise of Paul Gillies?

by JWB in

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the rise and rise of paul gillies?.

here are a view details about the 57-year-old paul stuart gillies.. .

2011: appointed as a director of international bible students association (ibsa) on 2 november having resigned as a director of watch tower bible and tract society of britain on the same day.

Xanthippe

So if someone who used to go to church becomes a JW and starts taking the emblems he/she is spiritually weak or nuts but a guy can move to America, work near the GB and lo and behold he's suddenly one of the anointed?

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Bethelites Vow Of Poverty

by pale.emperor in

former governing body assistant howie tran has shared his bethel vow of poverty contract.

it reads rather culty.

i think clause number 9 is particularly worrying...to adhere to, not the bible alone, but also the watchtower literature and the governing body.

Xanthippe

That is precisely what they are. - Morph

Well you have to hope the married couples in Bethel don't live like monks and nuns.

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Bethelites Vow Of Poverty

by pale.emperor in

former governing body assistant howie tran has shared his bethel vow of poverty contract.

it reads rather culty.

i think clause number 9 is particularly worrying...to adhere to, not the bible alone, but also the watchtower literature and the governing body.

Xanthippe

It's worded as if they are in a monastic order! Why?

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Anyone know the significance of the three days and nights Jesus is dead?

by Crazyguy in

in my studies i’ve come to realize that most dying and rising gods such as inanna, jesus and others all were dead three days and nights.

the moon is dead as far as man not being able to see it in the sky three days and nights but many of these gods are not associated with the moon, osiris maybe being the only exception.

have any of you in your research come up with a plausible idea on why there all dead just threes days and three nights?.

Xanthippe

I’ve come to realize that most dying and rising gods such as Inanna, Jesus and others all were dead three days and nights.

Yes I seem to remember the Hindu god Krishna has a lot of similarities with Jesus but I don't know the significance of the three days.

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God and the afterlife. Do you need to believe in both

by moley in

i consider myself an atheist, i completely reject the idea of a totalitarian desert god/any god and the bible is a book of fairytales and folk legends.. i do however sort of believe that this life is not all there is.

i’m not talking about heaven or hell but in a tangible state of being.. there are a few experiences i’ve had in my llife.

could be imagined could be real.

Xanthippe

God and the afterlife. Do you need to believe in both

There are many atheists like myself who believe in an afterlife. I found the first clue in a second-hand bookshop about thirty years ago. Since then I've read many books about near death experiences, people from all walks of life reporting them, many without any religious belief.

Of course the evidence is anecdotal rather than empirical. Scientists can't try killing people and reviving them! The lack of oxygen to the brain causing hallucinations explanation doesn't stack up. Low oxygen, for example causing altitude sickness, results in confusion and little memory of what happened. NDE experiences are crystal clear and people remember them for decades.

The ones that report conversations, their hospital surroundings or what relatives were doing miles away while they were being revived are the most interesting of course.