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  Hello...

  by Incognigo Montoya in

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  well, i've been lurking for a bit.

  first out of cautious curiosity, then, though feeling a bit more comfortable to post, got caught in the confirmation email anomaly, and left unable to post or participate.

  so i remained lurking, reading and researching.

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  Xanthippe

  Welcome IM! A fan of the Princess Bride?
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  My Story

  by Kathy1978 in

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  2. experiences

  i was a 3rd generation jw on my mom’s side and both of my parents were jws when i was born.

  me and my 3 siblings were raised a bit on the strict side.

  no sports, outside association, college, mandatory meeting attendance & service routine, etc.

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  Xanthippe

  Well done not exposing your kids to this cult, Kathy. However hard it is leaving it's harder staying imho. As you put it ......

  we always say to each other our worst day out is 100 times better than our best day in the cult.
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  Hello!

  by Kathy1978 in

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  i just wanted to give a brief intro.

  i was born into jw world and left it in 2015 along with my husband and 2 little children.

  looking forward to reading the posts and interaction with you.

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  Xanthippe

  Welcome Kathy, looking forward to your posts. Good to have you here 💖
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  Am I shunned here?

  by caves in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  lately i been sifting though my many emotions after being here on this site.

  i feel ive been all over the map just trying to come to grips with the information.

  but through all this i feel i'm shunned here as of late due to my (all over the place =-ness).

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  Xanthippe

  Caves you're a very deep man. You've done a lot with your life and given a great deal of thought to the meaning of it all so you sometimes stand out as different. Comprende? Need I say more?
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  Do you celebrate Christmas?

  by LovingLifeNow in

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  do you celebrate and how long have you been out?

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  3 years for me and yes i do..

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  Xanthippe

  Like Biahi I feel my childhood was stolen by that cult. I love the smell of a conifer in my house covered with petty lights. My daughter and I love a roast dinner and having the couple of relatives not trapped in the cult around for a meal with plenty of wine.

  We give one another gifts but try to avoid the price of them escalating each year. I hate the commercialisation of Christmas, the huge expensive presents we're expected to give, we resist it, I hate being a victim of advertising.

  As with anything else do it your way. I'm not celebrating the birth of Christ I'm joining in with my culture and having fun.
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  How did the bible fables get started?

  by Tameria2001 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  today while out running errands, i was flipping through the radio trying to find something to listen to.

  i ended up on some christian type of station, and the guy was talking about the ark, and the flood during noah's time.

  personally i no longer believe this fable, because the facts just don't line up.

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  Xanthippe

  There are many flood legends. Have a look at the Epic of Gilgamesh.

  I suppose there have always been floods and people living in Bronze Age settlements knew only their area, not having jet planes or ICT so it must have seemed like the whole world had flooded.

  In their minds the gods were in charge of weather so it was easy to believe God or gods were angry with them when bad weather killed family or tribal members.
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  If you could point out the sins of the leaders of the WTS/JWS according to Scripture what would they be ?

  by Finkelstein in

  1. watchtower
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  i think the most poignant sin would be teaching of false doctrines such as setting a time on jesus's positioning in heaven.

  from that single doctrine alone many doctrines or teachings stem and branch off such as the end times, great tribulation and armageddon all to occur concurrently one after the other.

  which brings up the question did god actually chose these men in 1919 ?

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  Deut 18: 20-22

  They're false prophets, their prophecies have failed, again and again. They therefore don't speak for God, we shouldn't listen to them. Their answer to the challenge? Overlapping generations - seriously!
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  Disassociation experiences please

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hi everyone.. i would love to collate the experiences of those who decided to disassociate.

  the reason i am asking this question is that i have been in turmoil for a very long time as to whether i remain a fader or whether to bring closure on my membership with the watchtower organisation.. it is for this reason i would like to read about some of the experiences of those on this forum who went down the route of disassociation.

  if could answer the following.

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  Xanthippe

  How long did it take you to decide to disassociate?

  A few months after realising it was a corrupt organisation.

  How has this impacted on you?

  It was a clean break, very hard but looking back I think we couldn't have gone on much longer.

  Has your mental health in any way been affected since you disassociated? Eg if being shunned by family.

  My husband and I were okay for two years then had a mental health blip. Then we recovered and got on with getting more education and pulling ourselves out of the poverty trap of pioneering

  Do any of your current JW relatives associate with you? And if so to what degree?

  No, we see them at funerals. I have a great-nephew I've never met.

  Do you feel your life is better now that you are completely free of the watchtower?

  Oh goodness, yes, I would have died in that cult. We got degrees, decent jobs, travelled, had a baby, bought a little house. I'm so glad we got out when we were quite young. I was thirty and my husband was thirty-four. Our little girl had a great childhood, birthday parties, Christmas, friends, sleepovers. I hated school, being made to stand out, she loved it. We both relived our childhood in a way through her happiness and it helped us catch up on what we missed out on.

  Do you ever get panic attacks about Armageddon or that you left "the truth"?

  No, never. Not for a moment.
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  New Zealand: Radio Live-Graeme Hill Show: Former elder Shayne Mechen interviewed

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jpt4gkhn-g.

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  Xanthippe

  Yeah '81 was after Ray Franz wasn't it, they clamped down on talking to anyone who'd left.
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  Sentinel Island: Rewards for Those Who Expand Their Ministry, Blessings Await You!!!!!

  by moomanchu in

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  "can you serve where the need for kingdom publishers is greater?".

  https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/22/asia/north-sentinel-island-worlds-isolated-tribes-intl/index.html.

  the message of jehovah’s kingdom by christ has already gained grand triumphs throughout the earth because he backs up and blesses the preaching of this “good news” by his witnesses in all the inhabited earth.

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  Xanthippe

  So many cults ....... so much suffering