When you text your sister because you hear she's had a heart/angina attack and she says 'thank you for your concern'. Thank you for your concern! I hate that JW expression. How about fuck, I'm scared, I nearly died!
Xanthippe
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What Are Ways You Can Tell Someone is a Jehovah’s Witness?
by minimus inis it something they do?
how they say things?
how do you spot a jehovah’s witness?.
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Xmas, love it or leave it??
by DATA-DOG ini have to say that i’m not enjoying the xmas season.
i have no emotional ties and i’m spending money that i have not set aside for xmas during a slow work season for my trade.. i’m not happy about it, because it’s foolish to spend money when you aren’t making any.
then i feel like i’m expected to do all this, and to be happy about spending money and time on persons that i’m not that involved with.
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Xanthippe
I think being triggered is a good word because it does feel like cult behaviour on some level. Can't we just have a few days off work and a slap up meal with family and friends without buying people ridiculously expensive presents?
Advertising goes crazy at Christmas and it's a fight not to be drawn into the spending frenzy. I have bought small gifts for close family members but I'm certainly not getting them computers or TVs!
To be honest I'm just desperate to see my daughter for the holidays as it's been two months and I just want to spend time with her.
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Two for One offer. You get one for the price of two!
by Slidin Fast indid anyone else fall for this one?
i did pre-assembly work in my home town, this was obviously voluntary unpaid work.
i continued to do part-time work helping to support my mom who has been recently abandoned by my elder dad,.
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Xanthippe
You had to do two pre-assembly work hours for each pioneer hour your missed? Wow I pioneered when it was a hundred hours too and worked part-time to pay my bills, how on earth can you do more than that. I was already working 45+ hours a week in total. The monsters to make you do that!
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Dysfunctamentalism
by Incognigo Montoya inin reading through many posts over the last few months, i have started to form a viewpoint towards at least some of those witnesses/witness families, who are abusive and overzealous in their thinking.. arguably, many, if not all here, would say all pimi witnesses are overzealous in their thinking, but i sort of disagree with that.
without revealing too much about myself, my parents who are still in (father long time elder, mother regular pioneer), i consider stable and balanced in their views.
while i was shunned to a degree, after being disfellowshipped (they didn't go out to dinner or the movies with me or socialize with me publicly or very often privately, they didn't attend my wedding) they still spoke to me on the phone every few months, as i checked in on them and let them know i was doing alright (i moved out of state in my late teens).
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Xanthippe
It's a deeper subject than it appears. My post asks the question what if that cult didn't exist? What if they hadn't scooped up my mother and love bombed her when she was vulnerable because of her dysfunctional family?
Why do cults exist and attract dysfunctional people? There's always religion where there is poverty. There was a lot of poverty in the nineteenth century. It's arguably what led up to WWl. That's when Russell got going and he used the war to fit it into his nonsense prophecies.
The whole fundamentalist cult thing, IMO, is often tied in with poverty, war and misery. That will make anyone dysfunctional.
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Service experiences
by former2free ini know what you may be thinking by the title but bear with me.
have you ever reflected on past service experiences and think wow if only i had listened to a householder?
two things come to my mind of personal experience.
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Xanthippe
Yes there was a psychologist who said she had a lot of clients that were very disturbed JWs. I just remember she spoke in a very syrupy hypnotic voice and she put me right off but I wished I'd stayed and listened.
Another person said he was a philosopher and was making a lot of sense to my husband and myself but it made me feel ill listening to him. How I wished I'd listened to him.
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"Are you the plumber?"
by Jourles ini've been debating whether or not to post this story simply because the org knows who i am (post history from pre-'05 will tell you all you need to know), and i'm not sure if they would give my parents shit if they knew what transpired earlier this summer.
but you know what, i don't care what they do, because my mom is dying of stage iv cancer and i feel this needs to be heard by anyone struggling with the loss of contact from their relatives.. for those who are not familiar with my background, i became a small thorn in the side of the wts while i was still in.
i'm not big on being deceived, and for me, the org crossed my personal 'red line' when it came to blood and the child abuse issue.
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Xanthippe
Wow Jourles, how sad she recognised other people straight away but not you. As if she had deliberately blocked you out of her mind.
Well done you for making the first move and thank you for all you did to help people leave the cult through the documents you released to the web and the help you gave to silent lambs.
It is not easy to leave and make a life for yourself when faced with shunning by family for many years, l know. Thanks for your story.
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Dysfunctamentalism
by Incognigo Montoya inin reading through many posts over the last few months, i have started to form a viewpoint towards at least some of those witnesses/witness families, who are abusive and overzealous in their thinking.. arguably, many, if not all here, would say all pimi witnesses are overzealous in their thinking, but i sort of disagree with that.
without revealing too much about myself, my parents who are still in (father long time elder, mother regular pioneer), i consider stable and balanced in their views.
while i was shunned to a degree, after being disfellowshipped (they didn't go out to dinner or the movies with me or socialize with me publicly or very often privately, they didn't attend my wedding) they still spoke to me on the phone every few months, as i checked in on them and let them know i was doing alright (i moved out of state in my late teens).
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Xanthippe
But I can't discount how much of their bad childhood was due to a dysfunctional family dynamic, that would'vje still been bad, had their parents not been witnesses.
Yes I have said this myself on the forum. My family was dysfunctional because my mother lost her brother in WWll and never got over it. Her father never got over losing his son and became a violent alcoholic.
She married too soon to get away from her dysfunctional family and then as an unhappily married woman she was vulnerable to the JWs calling and love bombing her.
However, the point is if that cult had not existed and she hadn't been scooped up by it how would our family have continued? She went along to the KH because she was a lonely young mother who'd just moved to a new area and didn't know the people in the new Anglican Church and the JWs, she said, invited her to their church but the local vicar didn't call and invite her to his.
Now she was raised an Anglican and was very involved in the local church. So I think if that cult hadn't existed she would eventually, possibly when her baby and toddler were older, have attended the new church and I would have been brought up in mainstream Christianity and been able to choose my future belief system as I grew up.
My family would have still been dysfunctional, my parents were never happy but the difference is I wouldn't have had my life ruined by a cult. That's the difference.
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Just a Rant .......
by LOLS inhi beautiful people ..... so today is my wedding anniversary ....... .
and first of all my dear husband forgot again .... which is normal according to my dear old dad "it's a man thing " .
but to add insult to injury , i must wait till friday to be taken out for dinner , because low & behold my jdub husband can't miss one bloody jw meeting !
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Xanthippe
I'm so sorry, if it's a meeting night tonight he won't miss it because it's your anniversary, that is a JW thing. I don't think it's a man thing forgetting your wedding anniversary, my husband never forgot. I think you need to be very, very upset he forgot. Have a good time treating yourself and your children today.
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Too Many Categories That Most People Fall Into ... L G B T Q C G D ... I Get Confused
by RubaDub init seems like we are all getting pigeon-holed into a category that may or may not be applicable to us.
personally, i am a "d" but i am sure there are a few (though statistically insignificant) who would otherwise fall into an "o" or other category.. it just seems like society needs to label us in the l g b t q c g d communities.. rub a dub.
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Xanthippe
I hope this helps
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Too Many Categories That Most People Fall Into ... L G B T Q C G D ... I Get Confused
by RubaDub init seems like we are all getting pigeon-holed into a category that may or may not be applicable to us.
personally, i am a "d" but i am sure there are a few (though statistically insignificant) who would otherwise fall into an "o" or other category.. it just seems like society needs to label us in the l g b t q c g d communities.. rub a dub.
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Xanthippe
I don't understand you beyond LGBTQ, can you explain or is this your usual jokiness?