'Responding to potential Conversation Stoppers' is pure hard sell technique. Like when the double glazing salesman says you might not want new windows right now but if I were to call back next week which day would you prefer?
Xanthippe
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2014 March Our Kingdom Ministry
by WatchTower87 in2014 march our kingdom ministry .
pdf version : http://adf.ly/bozdo press next and download.. .
no virus ;) .
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I don't find this stuff amusing anymore
by sparrowdown ini would just like to get this off my chest.. during the public talk last sunday the speaker (bro holden m'groin) said in public talk: .
" if you ask any 16yr old girl what she wants out of life, she would probably say a home, a family etc etc" (because obviously this is still 1955).. anyway that got my attention i thought " hmm....where is he going with this?"..
bro holden m'groin goes on .
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Xanthippe
We don't have to help anyone. There's nothing we can do. We just have to sit back and wait for God to do everything. A great religion for lazy people who judge everyone as useless and beyond help.
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Are you a good person?
by Xanthippe insomething happened this week to make me think about this again.. it feels like all bets are off and i really don't know what a good person is anymore.. when i left the jws i was so sure i knew what it meant to be a good person.. this has been revised many times since.. i tend to favour the utilitarian approach, the greatest happiness for the greatest number of people.. sometimes you have to stick your neck out and say this is not good for me no matter what others may feel they need from me.. no idea where i'm going with this maybe this is a breakthrough in my life or maybe that glass of wine was stronger than i thought!.
any thoughts?.
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Xanthippe
I think it is a flawed concept. People make a religion out of anything- even society- thinking there is a level of goodness to attain to to gain some mysterious intangible benefit somehow, and it is just a dream. It is better just to be natural, to help a blind person across a road, for example; but also to take our 'guilty pleasures' when we want them- without feeling guilty, of course. I have given up on the concept of good & bad- it doesn't work for me. - Transhuman68
Transhuman I think you're right it's a flawed concept. It is better to be natural and let myself feel compassion when it rises up inside me and motivates me to do something for someone. Sometimes I don't feel compassion for people, especially if they wallow in self pity. There are so many families struggling so hard all over the world just to get enough to eat I can't cope with people who moan endlessly about stupid things like the weather.
Also there is still something deep down inside me from the religion that there is some mysterious intangible benefit to gain from being a good person. Good point, I didn't realise I felt that. So much stuff still in there from the indoctrination. Just follow my heart is the answer when it comes to compassion and use my reason to decide how best to use my time, energy and money. Oops speaking of money gotta go to work!
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Have You Been Invited To The Memorial?
by minimus inone of my best friend's, who is an ex elder had two elders visit him at his home yesterday to invite him to the memorial.
he was cordial to them because they were'nt over the top.. so far, i have had no invites, thank god..
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Xanthippe
No I'm an evil apostate, they don't call here
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What JW beliefs did you used to hate trying to defend?
by DuvanMuvan inas one of the jw "young ones" i was always expected to witness to my friends at school if i wanted to make god's heart glad or whatever but i didn't.
the closest i ever got was just explaining why we didn't celebrate christmasetc.
even then i was just reciting things i read in publications.. one topic i always tried to avoid talking about was birthdays.
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Xanthippe
Those four scriptures scattered all over the bible to explain the seven times ending in 1914. I found it embarrassing. It didn't make sense to me and I could see it didn't make sense to the householder.
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I would like to apologize.
by ThomasCovenant in'i would like to apologize'.
'i need to apologize'.
'i must apologize'.
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Xanthippe
Lol I thought you were going to apologize for that aweful book you wrote or that someone wrote about you, Thomas Covenant.
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Anyone got a nice, simple recipe for Moussaka???
by quellycatface ini love this dish so much but have never made it.. goodness, i am so obsessed with food..
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Xanthippe
The vegi Moussaka, you roast sliced aubergine, red pepper, red onion and sliced potatoes (that have boiled for five minutes) and garlic cloves in the oven for half an hour with olive oil and seasoning. Add pieces of tomato for the last 15 mins.
Then you put a layer of half of the cooked veg in an ovenproof dish, drop on pieces of goats cheese and spoon over some tomato passata.
Add the last of the veg and top with more passata. Mix plain yoghurt, two beaten eggs and parmesan cheese together and pour on top.
Bake for 45 mins.
It sounds complicated but once you've got the veg roasting in the oven there's nothing to do except throw some tomato chunks in half way through. The layering of stuff at the end only takes five minutes.
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Anyone got a nice, simple recipe for Moussaka???
by quellycatface ini love this dish so much but have never made it.. goodness, i am so obsessed with food..
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Xanthippe
I made a vegetarian one last night but you probably mean with meat?
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The WT and it's views on depression.
by quellycatface inas a few of you may remember, i suffer from bipolar.. when working at the uk home office, i was signed off by my doctor with depression and anxiety.. in the space of 11 months i was assessed by 2 home office doctors, both diagnosing me as unfit for work.
i eventually left.. how therefore, can stupid little people in the kh say you'll be better doing fs, ministry school and being regular at meetings??.
they have to be the most un-empathetic bunch of people on the planet.
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Xanthippe
Thirty years ago they said in the Watchtower that antidepressants were addictive and you should try and manage without them. Get outside and 'dig in the dirt' was their advice. I can't even express the pain of depression for five years without medication. Contrast that with when my parents died and I had depression. I took SSRIs (antidepressants) for just five months and I was better. Never been addicted to them, never needed them since, not even when my husband died. F**k the Watchtower.
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Why is being ambitious discouraged by Jehovah's Witnesses? Yahoo Answers
by Iamallcool inhttps://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20121226104241aasqlv3 .
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Xanthippe
Good find. This Wiki page was listed as evidence in one of the answers. Criticism of JWs - I haven't seen it before.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Jehovah%27s_Witnesses