if you think about it, for a die hard christian the day jesus was supposed to be resurrected and back in heaven, thereby fulfilling his earthly mission, is a very big day.
all the jws i know never even thought about it.
in fact if i had mentioned it, i bet they would have looked me at strangely.
Did any JWs you know ever think about him being resurrected 3 days later?
I think the reason they focus on his horrific death is so they can say Jesus suffered so much, what are you going to do for him. Which translated means how much are you going to slave for our publishing company.
so manipulaitve.
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http://www.printcentralandsigns.com/jwtalks/covisits/sinutko%20charles%20-%20is%20it%20proper%20to%20have%20doubts.mp3.
He sounds so bored as if he's about to fall asleep. As if he knows what he's saying is garbage.
i definitely look like a worldly person by jw standards... however i went to my old hall because they are remodelling and they are in the final p[hase.
it was not on purpose.
i had bnusiness on the street and happened to drive past.
I thought about waking him up then I realized that they love the org more than me
C&A I used to think that about my mother, brother and sisters but now I think they are just lost little people who can't cope with the big wide world so they hide in a cult. No moral or ethical decisions to make, they just do as they are told. They don't have to decide which chariities to support or which political issues to care about. They just actually like being told what to do, what to think and waiting for God to make a beautiful world. Really sad.
But you are not like that. I'm glad the healing has started.
i just found this video they released on their official website.
sorry if this was already posted.
(if not i thought some might have some thoughts about it).
'a rigouous five month course of Bible study'
Did they even discuss how the Biblical canon was formed. Why some books were left out. What the Apocrypha is about. How the Bible was translated from Latin to the vernacular. Why they are following the teachings of a shopkeeper from the nineteenth century.
what are the positives in your life since leaving jws?
mine would be a healthier lifestyle mentally and physically.
i'm free to do what i want and can make my own decisions, is this good for me will it help me or could it hurt someone else?
GoUnion I'm glad things are good with your wife and you have reconnected with your brother, riches indeed. I fill my time with reading, gardening, gym, walking in the countryside, cooking, cinema and theatre, a little voluntary work. Oh yes and my job! Which I enjoy, most of the time. I too am so much healthier now than I was in my twenties in that religion. If I hadn't left I would be like my sisters, hanging on to health by the skin of my teeth.
They don't talk to me, have'nt done for twenty-five years. Neither does my brother who is an elder. Like you I don't miss them as much as I thought I would. We have nothing in common now. Hope all keeps going well for you.
as a "therapist trainee"(still have to take my license test) i worry about all of the religious people out there who might commit suicide if the rapture/armaggeddon does not materialize.
what if the bible is proven to be "a big fairy tale" will born again christians(bac) and jws kill themself?
i worry about some of my older jw relatives that have waited for armaggeddon for 50 years and are still waiting.
I think fundamentalist religion is about getting away from reality. As a therapist you might almost see it as a rather successful way for those struggling with poor mental health to actually move through life in this complex world. The delusion is a coping strategy for them. Those born into it often leave battered and bruised but essentially they escape because they are well. It's being around the deluded that is harming them.
Personally I don't think there will be mass suicide because they share a group delusion that keeps them going. They will just decide it will not be in their lifetime after all. From my JW friend who has been in for 60 years I gather those that remain think it is the best way of life possible so even if the promised bliss is a long time coming they feel protected and safe.
when i worked for a book store i became familiar with beka text books for home school.. i spoke with the mothers who came looking for them.
i realized something didn't smell right.. then, i realized there are a couple of generations of fundamentalist kids who have had no exposure.
to the scientific method, science facts or any conversancy with physics or biology or history as a result of beka textbooks.. in a nutshell here is the situation:.
My niece was home schooled and has two degrees and is studying for her doctorate.
had anyone heard any jws talk about the fact that a blood moon lunar eclipse is going to happen on the night of the memorial?
i can't imagine that at least some witnesses aren't saying this event is a biblical 'sign' that amageddon is getting very close.
there will be four blood moons between now and fall 2015.....a very rare celestial happening.
http://www.theguardian.com/science/gallery/2014/apr/15/blood-moon-lunar-eclipse-in-pictures
Some great pictures of the blood moon that does not exist and was made up by a fundie preacher.
according to wt doctrine jehovah's witnesses will be singled out and persecuted during a time described in this way: "for then there will be great tribulation such as has not occurred since the worlds beginning until now, no, nor will occur again.
" according to the watchtower the devil will turn on god's people will all his might (if he really exists, why hasn't he done so already?
) in an attempt to wipe them out.. also, it's not promised that all jws will escape unscathed during this period of time.. even before i woke up fully to ttatt i really thought about what that meant.
Yes I really did. I commented on a question in the Watchtower study not long before I left and said we don't know how long we will have to suffer terrible things before Jehovah rescues us. The study conductor started arguing with me from the platform and said it won't be that bad! I am not sure when I got over the thought of being tortured to death, it stayed with me a long time.
i feel like i wasn't allowed to read a lot of books when i was younger, a lot of which i'm discovering are positivly phenomenal.. i was allowed to read edgar allan poe, who remains my all time favorite writer.
but, i've discovered the joys of stephen king, anne rice, joyce carrol oats, neil gaiman, george r. martin, david sedaris... and so so so many more.. i'm currently getting through "the shining" so i can move on to "doctor sleep".
i'm interested to see if anyone else that discovered the many joys of "worldly" literature, jumped immediately into what they weren't allowed to read... and what was your favorite?.
A few weeks ago I read a book that was absolutely forbidden when I was a witness, Dennis Wheatleys The Devil Rides Out which is about satanists. Turned out to be very silly but it was something I just wanted to do because I can.
bemused I'm reading Midnight's Children. Goes on a bit doesn't he! It's about the Indian partition in 1947. It's taken him 200 pages just to get to 1947, but I am enjoying it.
