This is an open letter only on this forum intended for a person who has already started to research their religion because they are dissatisfied with it. If anyone would like to add their reassurance to my nephew that he will receive help on this forum, if he is in fact here, then please do so.
Xanthippe
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A fourth generation JW on the way
by Xanthippe into my nephew,.
your other aunt phoned my non-jw cousin, so i know your wife is expecting a baby in the new year.
congratulations!
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A fourth generation JW on the way
by Xanthippe into my nephew,.
your other aunt phoned my non-jw cousin, so i know your wife is expecting a baby in the new year.
congratulations!
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Xanthippe
To my nephew,
Your other aunt phoned my non-JW cousin, so I know your wife is expecting a baby in the new year. Congratulations! I am so happy for you. New life is such a precious gift but please don't raise your child in this religion that refuses to report child abuse to the authorities. You know that this is illegal and immoral. Please don't expose your child to these people.
Also please allow your son or daughter to go to university because any child of yours will be very intelligent. I have only seen you once, at your Grandma's funeral, since you were about nine or ten but I remember how clever you were. Don't condemn your child to be ignorant and unqualified, having to clean toilets or windows for a pittance.
It is my greatest wish that you find the courage to research the religion you were raised in even as you encourage people out in field service to do. I am here for you. If you want to leave this religion I can help and so can your cousin, my daughter, who you can get to know. There are hundreds of people on this forum who would also love to help you and we can show you all the information that is available so you can be sure you are not being fooled.
If you are reading this then you know the significance of today so please pm me.
All my love
Your Aunt
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I tripped into a JW literature cart
by diana netherton ini wasn't looking where i put my feet, and i almost took the cart out!
anyway, i stopped and chatted with the people for a bit.
three women and a man -- an elder and his wife.
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Xanthippe
I don't see any reason to be rude especially when you can talk to them about their teachings, don't miss the opportunity. However I don't respect what they believe and I could never say that to them.
A JW who knew my husband years ago started writing to me and she keeps talking about her beliefs. I told her my family have shunned me for decades and on top of that their hatred of university would prevent me returning. She says she respects my feelings and knows I respect hers. How can a person who keeps ramming their religionn down your throat in every letter be showing respect?
So I tell her how I feel about the religion. She wants to pretend my family are isolated individuals and shunning me is wrong. I can't let her sidestep the issue, my family are following the Governing Body to the letter.
As ADCMS says most JWs don't know what their religion teaches and what we say goes over their heads but occasionally a born-in like me will see the nonsense for what it is. We keep trying to help them challenge their beliefs, sometimes it's wearing.
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Tight Pants , a Bethel Bro replies
by Phizzy inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8szhnltnkme.
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Thanks Phizzy, I listened for the same reason as you to see how they are rationalising things these days and his replies were very interesting. Basically a guy won't be disfellowshipped for wearing tight trousers but he will have his 'privileges' taken away. I assume that's what he means by 'we won't use him'. That's no small thing is it, people will start marking him as a bad associate and cutting him dead in the KH for his supposed wrongdoing.
Same old tired argument when she said people are thrown out for questioning the Watchtower org. for going beyond the thing that is written, because her father was and he said that's their choice. People do not choose to lose their family and all their friends to follow their conscience. It is forced upon them by this cult, as it was forced on me.
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As I move further away from theWT.....
by Viviane ini've, over the years, looked into many religions.
obviously, from those that have seen me post here, i've become an atheist simply because i couldn't find any reason to believe in god.
recently, though, over the past few months, a new change has started.
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Xanthippe
I do think religion is silly but sometimes I worry about those young people who are born into a religion and they are so sincere, like I was. People laughed at me and poured scorn out in fs and it pushed me further into the cult because I was genuine and the laughter hurt. Perhaps not respect but maybe empathy for those who were raised in religions and who just haven't had chance to think about reality yet because they are so young?
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I HATE vets
by Xanthippe intook one of my cats to the vet two weeks ago, she gets dermatitis from flea bites and although she gats flea treatment every four weeks the skin problem flares up about every two years.
so i asked for her usual steroid tablets which clear it up in about a week but no this young vet about 25 thought she should have a steroid injection and an antibiotic.
didn't work and she's much worse.. went back today and another vet said can't give you the tablets because the injection is still in her system and lasts 6 weeks.
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Some are just in it because it's a career and pays well
Yes that's very true Simon. We have very few local vets, most seem to come from other countries because it pays so well in the UK.
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I HATE vets
by Xanthippe intook one of my cats to the vet two weeks ago, she gets dermatitis from flea bites and although she gats flea treatment every four weeks the skin problem flares up about every two years.
so i asked for her usual steroid tablets which clear it up in about a week but no this young vet about 25 thought she should have a steroid injection and an antibiotic.
didn't work and she's much worse.. went back today and another vet said can't give you the tablets because the injection is still in her system and lasts 6 weeks.
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OTWO, ha ha! I don't hate veterans LOL Thanks for wishing me luck.
AlphaMan omg what a nightmare. Yeah all you want is for people to do their jobs properly.
apostrate that's sad. We adopted a stray and from a starving skinny thing he's become a big beautiful tabby that my daughter can cradle like a baby and he purrs his heart out.
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I HATE vets
by Xanthippe intook one of my cats to the vet two weeks ago, she gets dermatitis from flea bites and although she gats flea treatment every four weeks the skin problem flares up about every two years.
so i asked for her usual steroid tablets which clear it up in about a week but no this young vet about 25 thought she should have a steroid injection and an antibiotic.
didn't work and she's much worse.. went back today and another vet said can't give you the tablets because the injection is still in her system and lasts 6 weeks.
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Xanthippe
Took one of my cats to the vet two weeks ago, she gets dermatitis from flea bites and although she gets flea treatment every four weeks the skin problem flares up about every two years. So I asked for her usual steroid tablets which clear it up in about a week but NO this young vet about 25 thought she should have a steroid injection and an antibiotic. Didn't work and she's much worse.
Went back today and another vet said can't give you the tablets because the injection is still in her system and lasts 6 weeks. I got very cross, said the other guy said it lasted a week and a half! Why didn't the first one give me her usual tablets which always work? Oh maybe he didn't look at her notes, this guy said. Well that's not very good is it? I was boiling by now.
Anyway he looks at her notes again and finds out he has misread them and she had a different medication altogether and the injection lasts a day and a half so I can give her tablets. A day and a half, a week and a half, six weeks WTF are these idiots talking about!
In the UK a vet can earn £50,000 a year, that's $80,000. They seem like a bunch of idiots!
Yes I know steroids are dangerous that's why I pay for expensive flea treatment every month so she only needs the steroids occasionally. He didn't need to tell me that. Why do they talk to you as if you're an idiot!
Good job he only charged me for the tablets and not the consultation! I hate vets.
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Find What Your Social Status Was in the Congregation
by Mary inever notice how the "happiest people on earth" are also the most class-oriented?
the social structure in the congregation is more complex than the blueprints of a nuclear warhead, but just so that you "remember your place", see if you can find where your niche was/is:.
1. at the top of the social order of things within the congregation is of course, the presiding overseer and his family.
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Xanthippe
I was from a 'divided' family, my dad was never a JW. We were very poor, so no status at all in the congregation. I pioneered because I really believed every one who did not become a JW would die very, very soon.
I feel the same about the world now. I can't watch kids dying of hunger on TV and do nothing about it. The difference is that now I know it's not just down to a tiny group of people but that many thousands of ordinary people are doing their tiny little bit which amounts to a whole lot together. Also some very rich people are doing much more than I can.
My husband could only stomach four years as an elder before we both knew what was really going on and we left.
So my becoming a 'pioneer sister' was born from indoctrination, I thought I had to help save the world. Stupid yes, lacking in education, oh yes, but mean spirited and not willing to work, OMG no!
If people didn't pioneer and they did't really believe it then why did they stay? That always baffled me.
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Life is short and I'm gonna love it thread!
by poopsiecakes inso what are you doing to enjoy yourself?
doesn't have to be for anyone around you, or have anything to do with jw world.
just something that you do for you and only you and that fills your soul (whatever that means).
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Framing beauty in a lens, I love that too Poopsiecakes. Travel excites me, it fills me with energy even though sometimes it frightens me too. New places, vibrant cities, beautiful landscapes, diffferent cultures. I agree life is short and there are so many places on my bucket list. Finding cheap ways to travel is fun. Wasted too much time in a cult and the world is out there.
Also creativity. I've started painting again in my garden this summer, in watercolour, which I've always struggled with. Perhaps I'm finally getting the hang of it.