I think she got fed up with people criticising her belief in God. She used to post anyway about prayer and Jesus and then say 'now you can throw rocks at me and I will put the rocks in my rockery garden'. Perhaps she just got hit too many times. Very sad for a lovely lady who lost her daughter in death and much of her family to the cult.
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Where's Mouthy?
by Village Idiot init's been a while since she's posted.
i'm hoping she's ok.. for those who are new here mouthy (grace) is our forum's adopted grandma.
she has been posting here since the beginning.
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The Stupidity of the "Preaching Work" ...
by Muddy Waters inthis came up in another thread and i wondered if any one else thought this way while they were still in..... - that it is actually better not to preach as people who don't hear "the truth" are said to be given a resurrection rather than the poor saps who refused a paltry magazine and now merit everlasting destruction..
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The preaching work is a waste of time from the JW point of view anyway because if bigJ knows the heart why don't they just stop preaching and the 'end will come'. The longer God waits the more people are going to be born that need preaching to. It's nonsense. -
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Does growing up in a religious family make you MEAN?
by Divergent inyeah, i was mean.
could it be that i was not encouraged to have non-jw's as friends, so i viewed them as insignificant?
could it be that i found it difficult to live up to "christian standards" and took it out on others?
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I think my daughter is kinder and more altruistic than I am. She grew up in our atheistic family. I believe in giving to charity and I think altruism is real, I'm not cynical about it but she of her own initiative joined Kiva as a teenager to lend small amounts of money to people in the third world to start businesses.
She allows people she meets longer than I do to show what they are really like. I tend to get fed up and give up more quickly with people. So I suppose a religious background has made me more judgemental. I tend to keep people more at arms length than she does.
Really when I don't give up on people because I can't, like at work, I find people are many-faceted and I see sides to them I didn't expect. Kindness when I was ill or willingness to cooperate when things are tough at work. I'm still learning about people, stuff my daughter probably knows instinctively because she's been allowed to mix with all different types of people all her life.
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Had any weird dreams recently?
by LoveUniHateExams inso, i'll go first.. i dreamt last night that i was still at uni, i said goodbye to one of my lecturers.
then ulrika jonsson (former weather girl, shooting stars captain, and swedish nymphomaniac) gave me a lift home in her car - wtf?!
she kept trying to change the cd whilst trying to drive (reaching on the floor, looking for a cd).
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I became lucid in a dream last night. I was walking across stepping stones on a river, they were getting narrower and it was becoming quite scary. Then I realised I was dreaming and thought oh great I don't need to worry and I just stepped onto the water. Great fun walking on water. By the way if dreams get nasty and I want to wake up I think of my bedroom, that usually works. -
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Had any weird dreams recently?
by LoveUniHateExams inso, i'll go first.. i dreamt last night that i was still at uni, i said goodbye to one of my lecturers.
then ulrika jonsson (former weather girl, shooting stars captain, and swedish nymphomaniac) gave me a lift home in her car - wtf?!
she kept trying to change the cd whilst trying to drive (reaching on the floor, looking for a cd).
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Xanthippe
Angaharad you would be a very interesting person to meet.!!
yeah but lose that saucepan lid first!
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Had any weird dreams recently?
by LoveUniHateExams inso, i'll go first.. i dreamt last night that i was still at uni, i said goodbye to one of my lecturers.
then ulrika jonsson (former weather girl, shooting stars captain, and swedish nymphomaniac) gave me a lift home in her car - wtf?!
she kept trying to change the cd whilst trying to drive (reaching on the floor, looking for a cd).
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Truthseeker it was a Freud joke - blame the mother - you know? -
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Had any weird dreams recently?
by LoveUniHateExams inso, i'll go first.. i dreamt last night that i was still at uni, i said goodbye to one of my lecturers.
then ulrika jonsson (former weather girl, shooting stars captain, and swedish nymphomaniac) gave me a lift home in her car - wtf?!
she kept trying to change the cd whilst trying to drive (reaching on the floor, looking for a cd).
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Xanthippe
You know it's weird I haven't had dream in years. I wonder what Freud would say about that?
Did your mother show you enough affection?
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Farewell
by EdenOne in"don't be dismayed by good-byes.
a farewell is necessary before you can meet again.
and meeting again, after moments or lifetimes, is certain for those who are friends.
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I was amazed at your story of getting your dear wife mentally out of the cult Eden. How you did it and suggestions for others in the same position would be of great benefit to many people coming here for help. In life we always come across a few people with enormous egos but I find for the most part it's better to avoid them. I hope you decide to stay but have a great life anyway, whatever you decide. -
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On respect for the belief of others. Sorry for the long post
by StarTrekAngel ini am inclined to start this thread in response to some comments made in other threads.
i have been coming around these forum for quite some time now so whatever you find in here is not just related to something someone may have said this week.
it can go months back as well.. i have seen many who claim to respect the belief of others but when it comes down to applying it into practice, things take a whole different tune.
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This is a very important observation and a good reminder to keep in mind.
And while it might explain such behavior, it certainly does not justify it.
So with this in mind, what strategies can we use to "talk them down off the ledge" of their cult-indoctrination and the consequences of waking up and realizing they've been duped, (a process most, if not all, of us here had to go through).Oubliette they are not suicidal. I vividly remember the day my husband and I were reading a newspaper and I looked up and said, it was just another religion wasn't it? He said, yes I think it was. This was two years after leaving.
We read and studied, I did an IT course at a local college to help me get a job. I mixed with normal people and got my mind working, later I did a degree. So did my husband. What I'm saying is it's a long journey, people find their own way. We don't have to save them.
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On respect for the belief of others. Sorry for the long post
by StarTrekAngel ini am inclined to start this thread in response to some comments made in other threads.
i have been coming around these forum for quite some time now so whatever you find in here is not just related to something someone may have said this week.
it can go months back as well.. i have seen many who claim to respect the belief of others but when it comes down to applying it into practice, things take a whole different tune.
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I don't personally agree with it but I think it's because a person's identity, their belief about the purpose of life and their view on life after death are usually tied up with their religion. -me
If they choose to bring it up for discussion, how tied up and invested in that ideas falls under the category of "You should have about that before you decided to bring the topic up, theist." - Viviane
Yeah I agree but that presupposes the average person has a clue that what they believe affects them on such a deep level. When they join a thread on here sometimes they've just left or are trying to leave a cult that has twisted their mind in knots since babyhood. I speak from experience. Have a good flight Viv.