Interesting, I will say that the difference is the WTS does not have 1.2 billion members nor anywhere near the wealth of the Catholic Church to pay for many, many lawsuits. Has your uncle been to the Vatican?
Xanthippe
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All the child abuse lawsuits are just a hiccup in the bigger picture.
by I believe in overlapping inone of my uncles who has never been a jw is visiting for christmas.
my dad who has stopped being an elder and has stopped going to meetings started explaining to my uncle why he finally left the watchtower religion.
my dad had tried for years to convert my uncle but never succeeded.
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What JW Beliefs Did You Find Difficult To Explain?
by minimus inthere are a lot.
anything blood related was difficult to reasonably prove from a witness perspective.. 1914 was another one.
what can you add to the list?
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Xanthippe
God allowing his son to be tortured to death because two naked people ate some fruit and we lost eternal life. Struggled with that as a teenager.
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Chaos at Gatwick Airport
by The Fall Guy inhttps://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-sussex-46623754.
perhaps all major airports will eventually employ their own industrial sized drone, operated by a trained/authorised pilot who can track and pinpoint the nut-jobs who cause such disruption and possible catastrophe..
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Xanthippe
Wow Amelia you really went for it! Much admiration.
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Chaos at Gatwick Airport
by The Fall Guy inhttps://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-sussex-46623754.
perhaps all major airports will eventually employ their own industrial sized drone, operated by a trained/authorised pilot who can track and pinpoint the nut-jobs who cause such disruption and possible catastrophe..
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I feel really sorry for all the people whose travel plans have been ruined. People trying to get to family and friends they're desperate to see or a much needed holiday.
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Coming out of the Woodwork
by Solzhenitsyn inwho was i to think that we would be left alone?
it has been a dream for 2+ months.
a few calls i let go to voicemail but now the wife and i are getting bombarded with text messages.. this isn't going to be easy.. since we're not looking to throw a grenade into decades of relationships, text replies thus far have been..."thank you so much.".
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Everyone's relationships and friendships are different. You might have some really mature, intelligent people in you family and friend circle. It's got to be possible even among JWs right?
Only you can know the right way to handle them. Look at the advice and experience of others here then make up your own mind what to do.
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What Are Ways You Can Tell Someone is a Jehovah’s Witness?
by minimus inis it something they do?
how they say things?
how do you spot a jehovah’s witness?.
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When you text your sister because you hear she's had a heart/angina attack and she says 'thank you for your concern'. Thank you for your concern! I hate that JW expression. How about fuck, I'm scared, I nearly died!
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Xmas, love it or leave it??
by DATA-DOG ini have to say that i’m not enjoying the xmas season.
i have no emotional ties and i’m spending money that i have not set aside for xmas during a slow work season for my trade.. i’m not happy about it, because it’s foolish to spend money when you aren’t making any.
then i feel like i’m expected to do all this, and to be happy about spending money and time on persons that i’m not that involved with.
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I think being triggered is a good word because it does feel like cult behaviour on some level. Can't we just have a few days off work and a slap up meal with family and friends without buying people ridiculously expensive presents?
Advertising goes crazy at Christmas and it's a fight not to be drawn into the spending frenzy. I have bought small gifts for close family members but I'm certainly not getting them computers or TVs!
To be honest I'm just desperate to see my daughter for the holidays as it's been two months and I just want to spend time with her.
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Two for One offer. You get one for the price of two!
by Slidin Fast indid anyone else fall for this one?
i did pre-assembly work in my home town, this was obviously voluntary unpaid work.
i continued to do part-time work helping to support my mom who has been recently abandoned by my elder dad,.
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You had to do two pre-assembly work hours for each pioneer hour your missed? Wow I pioneered when it was a hundred hours too and worked part-time to pay my bills, how on earth can you do more than that. I was already working 45+ hours a week in total. The monsters to make you do that!
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Dysfunctamentalism
by Incognigo Montoya inin reading through many posts over the last few months, i have started to form a viewpoint towards at least some of those witnesses/witness families, who are abusive and overzealous in their thinking.. arguably, many, if not all here, would say all pimi witnesses are overzealous in their thinking, but i sort of disagree with that.
without revealing too much about myself, my parents who are still in (father long time elder, mother regular pioneer), i consider stable and balanced in their views.
while i was shunned to a degree, after being disfellowshipped (they didn't go out to dinner or the movies with me or socialize with me publicly or very often privately, they didn't attend my wedding) they still spoke to me on the phone every few months, as i checked in on them and let them know i was doing alright (i moved out of state in my late teens).
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It's a deeper subject than it appears. My post asks the question what if that cult didn't exist? What if they hadn't scooped up my mother and love bombed her when she was vulnerable because of her dysfunctional family?
Why do cults exist and attract dysfunctional people? There's always religion where there is poverty. There was a lot of poverty in the nineteenth century. It's arguably what led up to WWl. That's when Russell got going and he used the war to fit it into his nonsense prophecies.
The whole fundamentalist cult thing, IMO, is often tied in with poverty, war and misery. That will make anyone dysfunctional.
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Service experiences
by former2free ini know what you may be thinking by the title but bear with me.
have you ever reflected on past service experiences and think wow if only i had listened to a householder?
two things come to my mind of personal experience.
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Yes there was a psychologist who said she had a lot of clients that were very disturbed JWs. I just remember she spoke in a very syrupy hypnotic voice and she put me right off but I wished I'd stayed and listened.
Another person said he was a philosopher and was making a lot of sense to my husband and myself but it made me feel ill listening to him. How I wished I'd listened to him.