nope--never needed that sort of help. but then I never believed in god
and all that crap anyway.
Stan that's actually very helpful because I've always suspected many JWs don't believe in God. If you really don't have any faith to be torn apart by discovering you've been raised in a cult then why would you need help?
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Those that need to see a Therapist / and those that don`t is there a correlation of the two ?
by smiddy3 inthere have been a number of threads / posts here over the years about ex jw`s needing to see therapists for what they are going through , and i can appreciate that.. obviously there are many ex jw`s on here that haven`t ever felt the need to see a therapist ,and i`m just wondering why not ?.
why does one feel the need and another does not ?.
is it to do with born ins as against those who were converts ?
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Those that need to see a Therapist / and those that don`t is there a correlation of the two ?
by smiddy3 inthere have been a number of threads / posts here over the years about ex jw`s needing to see therapists for what they are going through , and i can appreciate that.. obviously there are many ex jw`s on here that haven`t ever felt the need to see a therapist ,and i`m just wondering why not ?.
why does one feel the need and another does not ?.
is it to do with born ins as against those who were converts ?
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A lot of older people like yourself don't want to see a therapist smiddy. Stiff upper lip and all that. I've spoken to three counsellors since leaving the cult because it's not good to bottle things up and I needed someone neutral to talk to, simple as that.
When my husband died my parents in law refused therapy. They just carried on the way they always have, her with her OCD, cleaning, cleaning, cleaning. Him with his depression alternating with narcissism. Yeah, they were fine, they didn't need any silly talking therapy.
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Anybody been to the therapist to talk about the Jdub stuff? What did they think of it?
by nowawake14 inwhat was their view of jdub rules?.
what was their view on the dfing thing?.
did they get pissed and think it was a cult?.
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I've spoken to three counsellors but I was only lucky with one of them, her relatives were JWs. She said when they all visited her mother in law her children were made to play in a different room from the JW kids because they were considered bad associations! You have to keep looking if the counsellor doesn't have the right knowledge or experience.
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Do any of you born into the cult feel like your mental growth was stunted?
by rockemsockem inbeing born in to me was devastating.
when you are a child born in and raised with the they vs us and they are evil and worldly and going to die.
not allowed to form relationships with anyone not one of you.
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The relationship thing was a problem I agree. Having raised my daughter away from the cult and watched her attitude to people I saw she was much more accepting of people than I was.
It can leave you feeling weird and odd but I decided to fight it. Volunteering for a mental health charity, making friends through meetup groups, doing a degree course all taught me that there's lots of reasons for feeling weird and for having a bad start in life. Many people have been stunted mentally and have ongoing mental health problems and low self esteem for all sorts of reasons.
Although I will say this, my daughter is twenty-four now and she has lots of friends she made as school and university. Sometimes they have those chats over wine (well shots I think) where they talk about weird family. I say to her everyone has weird relatives. She says when she describes her JW relatives (my family) and her ex-JW relatives, my husband's family, they all chorus 'you win, they're the weirdest people we've ever heard about'. š
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loneliness.
by zeb in"loneliness is to endure the presence of one who does not understand."--hubbard..
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"loneliness is to be in close propinquity of someone who has ceased to communicate"- germaine greer.. any others..?.
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'Forget sex or politics or religion, loneliness is the subject that clears out a room'. -
Douglas Coupland
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Share the meal
by Diogenesister inwatchtower belonged to the un and yet i guarantee they offered no help to the needy .
theres an app you can download onto your phone called.
share the meal.
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Great idea Diogenesister! I give to UNICEF every month by direct debit. It's only about Ā£4 but it's what they need, regular money so they can help hungry and sick children. They also have a fantastic immunisation program, with workers sometimes walking into mountainous and far flung places with syringes in packs on their backs! Brilliant organisation.
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Subliminal Messaging
by truthlover123 infor over 20 years subliminal pictures showed up in most books, wt, and awakes- eighties, nineties and into 2000's.... demons, gods, you name it-- .
question: is anyone seeing anything like this in todays publications?
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Xanthippe - There is something there. But what the intent is - joke by a bored artist - revenge by a pimo artist - the king of Evil known as the WT - shrugs.
Yeah it is difficult to know what the motive might be. If it is a PIMO what are they trying to achieve?
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Subliminal Messaging
by truthlover123 infor over 20 years subliminal pictures showed up in most books, wt, and awakes- eighties, nineties and into 2000's.... demons, gods, you name it-- .
question: is anyone seeing anything like this in todays publications?
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Irrefutable eh Benny? Yeah well nobody can refute it if you don't say what it is so I guess you're right
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Subliminal Messaging
by truthlover123 infor over 20 years subliminal pictures showed up in most books, wt, and awakes- eighties, nineties and into 2000's.... demons, gods, you name it-- .
question: is anyone seeing anything like this in todays publications?
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So what Äo you see Benny? I can see a watercolour painted background, maybe wet on wet technique. It produces splodges like that. What do you see?
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Were You A Gullible JW?
by minimus ini think every congregation has their group that sees everything as a sign that they are godās chosen people.
if a witness didnāt go to a meeting and a storm came and destroyed their house and killed them, and only the kingdom hall was saved, that was a sign that we should be in jehovahās house.
if russia persecuted jws , itās proof we are living in the last days.
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I was ignorant rather than gullible. I left school at sixteen so had very little education. We had two books in our house apart from the JW literature, Jane Eyre and The Water Babies. There was no money for books, we were dirt poor. We did have library tickets and borrowed books but it was only a little village library. My parents didnt buy national newspapers. The internet didn't exist.
I knew nothing about anything but I was intelligent so I worked it out eventually and left at thirty. This is why the cult targets ignorant, poor people, especially in developing countries. It's so easy to make fun of evolution to such people when they know nothing. So easy to say the bible is historically accurate because Babylon, The Hittites and Ur have been discovered. Although I have to say I did worry about that, I knew it didn't necessarily mean the rest of it was true.
I will say this, I followed my belief system from the heart and lived it. I didn't do it to please anyone else and I really believed I was saving lives in FS. I am genuine and not a hypocrite and there is something to be said for that. I believe it's what got me out.