i know certain apologists might rub us the wrong way, but let's not treat them like their pieces of sh*t.. and i know certain posters might rub us the wrong way, but let's not be so quick to beat everybody down that's not of our same reasoning.. just saying..
isnt it also fullfilment of a certain scripture ?
Any thing can be a fulfilment of a scripture. Thats whats so appealing for the scripture interpreters.
IN the case of the GB, sometimes they get tired of their own interpretations, and luckily, the scriptures are flexible enough to let them do it!
there is one lord, one faith, one baptism.. jehovah and jesus are also both spoken of as savior.
this is true because even though there are two personalities, and jesus also possesses a human body, they both also share the same substance or essence of god.
this is similar to my son who shares 50% of my essence in dna.
We can all see Jesus erections in the WT publications, which are diviniely guided, IN other words: Not only Does big J get an erection, HE WANTS US TO KNOW ABOUT IT!!!
OK, for anyone interested the entire PBS documentary is available on youtube.
Out of 900 people present on the day of the suicide- only SIX had a mind to escape. The rest killed themselves, their children, babies, and wives.
hi guys and gals.. i have not been a jw now for over 16 months and since then i have been ever so happy and free.
ive also used the time to become a better, more knowledgeable and more fulfilled person.
at that time i decided to study counselling skills and become a psychotherapist and it has taught me so much about the way i think and feel.
Hi Timothy-
Most counselors, psychaiatrists, mental health professionals know that the JWs are a destructive group.
Congratulations on starting down a new career path.
As to your question:
I have a full and rich life which I enjoy. However, I still feel sad for the family which shuns me, because I cant share or celebrate my happiness and success with them. IN fact, I have realized they take a perverse pleasure in tragedy and things going wrong because it confirms their world view. I suspect that if I were to die tragically they would feel very sorry for themselves and then think- we knew this would happen because ourchild is so wicked and and worldly!
That sick twisted mental pattern has helped me to realize I dont want or need people like that in my life, whether or not we are family.
And that is my answer to you.
december 21 marks the winter solstice and the end of a cycle called the 13th b'ak'tun.. 1.will we see a few who want to join the celestial parade ala those who wanted to hop on a comet a few years ago.. 2.should koolaid and vodka be banned dec. 20th.. 3.will the wt.
come out with an article making fun of those who 'falsely predict the end of the world' .
i'll take bets on #3.
lol coft
i have been "lurking" for about four years now.. it was an incredibly weird experience just to look at a site like jwn or freeminds.
he came off very loving.. so, i decided that i would talk to one of my elders about the things i read.
if any of you have time to read this, thank you.
Hello, welcome. Congratulations on the great deal of courage you have shown to post here.
There is no rush, you have a lot to learn and come to conclusions about. It can be very freeing to simply say, I DONT KNOW.
Many people here can address all of your scriptural questions, not me, but I wish you well..
Leaving this group takes time, you are young, try to become completely independent.
the worst thing an "elder" ever did to me was in 2008. i was in one congregation, but i wanted to return to my home congregation because i've been reproved there twice ( once private and the last one public ).
when i came into this congregation in 2007 i thought i was going to move up the food chain ( this congregation was full of older people, so i thought i would move up faster ).
but i got into some trouble in the congregation.
Hey Pitchess,
Dont worry about answering to me-
I dont believe in the WTS, their authrority, or the concept of sins to confess.
Maybe I misunderstood.
I dont even know how a missing publisher card is a bad thing.
So good luck to you!
And you too can shrug off their authority over you and live your life without worrying about this kind of BS!
i have been inactice now for about 4 months.
i keep getting visit from elders and well meaning ministerial servants.
i went back to two meetings about two weeks ago.
As far as your indecisiveness, when you do make a decision, there will be serious emotional consequences and the same people who show you love and interest now will turn on you in ways you cannot even imagine at this moment.
You might be able to sense how heavy the consequences will be and maybe you are not prepared to face them yet. Also, losing your beliefs means you will not be able to rationalize every good and bad thing that happens. So you will experience life differently. At the same time, so many possibilities will open up in front of you, of what life has to offer you and what you have to offer. It is incredibly rich. It can also be incredibly lonely. Just try to open up as much as you can, and develop good discernment and decision making skills.
Strengthen your heart and mind and become self reliant. When you reach the decisive moment you will know it.
knowing is good.. not knowing is bad.. knowing that you don't know leads to inquiry, research and education.
that is good.. assuming you know the validity of your research material is bad.. sometimes you are stumped but you don't know that you are stumped.
you proceed anyway.. .
Terry,
Ignorance has a strong negative meaning- while I am in full agreement with you and I am happy you put into words something I have observed, I prefer to think of it more as curiousity.
JWS are totally lacking in natural curiosity towards life, knowledge, how, why. They cant even form the questions, because every one has a thought stopping answer.
Wow, this is so fascinating.
Those images of all the bodies.
I can imagine a JW convention ending this way- all it takes is direction for the GB- how many would even have the mind to walk out.
