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Some fragments were written in greek. Some dated up to 70ce. John the baptist had essenian flavor. Some say both john and jesus were from that background. Yet jesus isn't mentioned.
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Dead Sea Scrolls published Jesus not There
by Satanus inthe prep and publishing of the dead sea scrolls is finally finishing.
they date from 250 bc to 70 ce.
out of a total of 52 volumes, jesus christ is not mentioned even once.. _________.
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Dead Sea Scrolls published Jesus not There
by Satanus inthe prep and publishing of the dead sea scrolls is finally finishing.
they date from 250 bc to 70 ce.
out of a total of 52 volumes, jesus christ is not mentioned even once.. _________.
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The gospels were written 20-70 yrs or longer after the fact. Why did they wait so long to write about the greatest man doing the most important things ever? Today when something important is done, all the details are recorded in audio, video and print. God was a bit slack with his inspiration back there, wouldn't you say?
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gumby
He was concieved out of wedlock. Couldn't god have waited at least until she was married? Those are his rules aren't they?
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Favorite Cher song determines IQ
by joelbear init has been proven that your choice of favorite cher song is an indication of your iq level.. song related iq.
believe 140+.
if i could turn back time 120 - 140. dark lady 100 - 120. half breed 80 - 100. i got you babe 60 - 80
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From what i read, cher has a very low iq, maybe lower than those who listen to her.
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divining rods work
by zerubberballz init's a funny ol' world.
a month ago i was mucking about with some thick fencing wire and i suddenly got the idea to bend a couple of pieces into a set of divining rods like i've seen old nutters doing on tv.
so i cut two sections of wire about 2' long and bent the ends 4" at 90 degrees to form old fashioned diving rods (twitching sticks are made of yew or hickory or something .. don't know what, if anything aboriginies used).
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Bro Joe
I guess the unanswered question is: what exactly is that force that twists the rods. Could it be a part of the conscious or unconscious? Some would preferr to see it as an exterior entity. If what uncle says is true, and what you say is true, then whatever force that is responsible for those rods to twist works through the eyes of the participant.
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Dead Sea Scrolls published Jesus not There
by Satanus inthe prep and publishing of the dead sea scrolls is finally finishing.
they date from 250 bc to 70 ce.
out of a total of 52 volumes, jesus christ is not mentioned even once.. _________.
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DanB
Yes, i read that claim as well. Where jesus is mentioned in josephus is supposed to have the appearance of out of context.
First century secular history of jesus makes up about one 8& a half by 11 inch page. I don't know of the existence of any writings about jesus, using his name, during his supposed lifetime 2 or 6bc to about 33ce .
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Dead Sea Scrolls published Jesus not There
by Satanus inthe prep and publishing of the dead sea scrolls is finally finishing.
they date from 250 bc to 70 ce.
out of a total of 52 volumes, jesus christ is not mentioned even once.. _________.
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The prep and publishing of the dead sea scrolls is finally finishing. They date from 250 bc to 70 ce. Out of a total of 52 volumes, jesus christ is not mentioned even once.
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Publication Of Dead Sea
Scrolls Completed
By Grant McCool
11-16-1NEW YORK (Reuters) - The modern technology of e-mail and laser printing speeded up the publication of complete volumes of the ancient Dead Sea Scrolls, one of the archeological finds of the 20th century, scholars said on Thursday.
The scrolls and fragments, providing insights into what the Hebrew Bible looked like 2,000 years ago, were discovered in caves between 1947 and 1956 on the shores of the Dead Sea and the decades since have been spent in painstaking and controversial research and conservation for their eventual publication.
Professor Emmanuel Tov, editor-in-chief of an international committee on the Dead Sea Scrolls, announced the publication of 37 large-sized volumes at a news conference in the New York Public Library. He added that an additional 15 volumes were also ready for publication.
``Modern technology was very important to our team,'' said Tov, who has headed the project since 1990. ``We decided to make the camera copies ourselves, e-mail was absolutely necessary and I could not have done this in 10 years without e-mail.''
Tov said he worked in a small office at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem with desktop computers and laser printers. Digital photography and multispectral imaging enabled scholars to read what was not previously visible on the fragments.
The volumes of scrolls, translated from writings in Hebrew, Aramaic, Greek and Latin dating from 250 B.C. to 70 A.D., were published by Oxford University Press under the title ''Discoveries in the Judean Desert.''
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``I'm pleased to be able to announce to you that the publication of the Dead Sea Scrolls has been completed,'' Tov said in remarks that he will also deliver Monday in Denver, Colorado at a conference of the Society of Biblical Literature. ''After 54 years of excitement, expectation, tribulation, much criticism and a little praise, with the help of inspiration and even more perspiration, publication has been finalized.''
Ten years ago, the end of the project was far from completion because the scrolls were under the control of a handful of scholars who were reluctant to share them. Under Tov and the Israel Antiquities Authority the pace quickened.
Hundreds of the documents were found near the Dead Sea, the best known are the Qumran scrolls which were discovered in 11 caves near the ruins of an ancient settlement at Hirbet Qumran, 9 miles south of Jericho, which is now part of the West Bank.
Reading of the scrolls did not shake Judaism or Christianity as some scholars had anticipated, but there was debate over the years over why they did not mention Jesus Christ. Tov explained that it was probably too early for Jesus to appear in the literature.
``Don't forget that all the scrolls written prior to the year zero could not have mentioned him,'' Tov said. ``So you are left only with the scrolls from zero to around 70. Then don't forget the New Testament itself was not written in the year zero or the year one, or two but the first writings were in the middle of the first century so it wasn't yet written up.''
One of the scrolls, containing a Hebrew song of Thanksgiving, was dedicated in New York Thursday to ``Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani and the Great City of New York'' to commemorate heroism in response to the Sept. 11 hijacked plane attacks on the twin towers of the World Trade Center.
``The scrolls are of enormous historical value not only to scholars but to those of us who feel that history is prolonged, to give us the opportunity to look at the world through the eyes of people 2,000 years ago and that we have to look at the world in a new light every day,'' said Richard Sheirer, director of the mayor's Office of Emergency Management, accepting the scroll on behalf of the city. -
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divining rods work
by zerubberballz init's a funny ol' world.
a month ago i was mucking about with some thick fencing wire and i suddenly got the idea to bend a couple of pieces into a set of divining rods like i've seen old nutters doing on tv.
so i cut two sections of wire about 2' long and bent the ends 4" at 90 degrees to form old fashioned diving rods (twitching sticks are made of yew or hickory or something .. don't know what, if anything aboriginies used).
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DannyB is right, guys. Uncle is just sharing an experience. He's not trying to convert you. You don't have to believe him. You can call him a lying bastard if you want, but lighten up!
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Does God Really Want to Save Everyone?"
by JosephAlward ina striking difference of opinion about gods attitude seems to have existed between the author of 1 timothy and the author of 2 thessalonians.
one thinks that god wants all men to be saved, but the other speaks of god deliberately deluding people in order to condemn them.
both pictures of god cannot be true, so there is a clear contradiction.
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Bro Joe
Good points. In fact a while ago i posted 100 passages that indicate that all would be saved, thus universalism. Then of course, there the opposing scriptures, i'm not sure how many, that declare that the majority of mankind are perished.
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Do You Still Believe a God Cares for You?
by JosephAlward ini've been a part of this forum for about one month, and during that time i've been struck by the willingness of many so former jehovah witnesses either to ridicule the bible, or to stand by while it's being ridiculed.
so, i'm wondering how many of them while witnesses suffered through experiences so searing that they no longer believe in the god of the old testament.. who among you still believe that underneath the layers of contradictions, inconsistencies, and errors in the bible there may be found the words of a god who created the universe, and who also cares about you, personally?.
joseph f. alward.
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Joseph
Thanks for responding. Since so many here gave their opinions, i didn't think it wasn't too much to ask for yours also.
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