(ap) "the proliferation of interfaith services after terrorists struck america have unsettled some conservative protestants, who feel joint worship violates their belief that christianity is the only true faith.. in one case, the rev.
david oberdieck filed charges with the lutheran church-missouri synod over a fellow pastor who joined non-christian clergy in the sept. 23 yankee stadium service, ``a prayer for america.''.
``i wouldn't have brought charges if jesus christ was confessed in such a way that he stood out from the smorgasbord of gods,'' said oberdieck, pastor of trinity lutheran church in lebanon, mo.
TJ
'joint worship violates their belief that Christianity is the only true faith' While it is true that islam also would fit in the above sentence, hinduism, buddhism and pagan religions wouldn't. Lower level hindues may be exclusivist, but these systems are all 'open'. In fact i read a hindu article that claimed ALL roads ultimately will lead to god, because he/it is at the end and the beginning of everything.
May you have cheese
SS
http://www.paxprofundis.com/parush/tradition.htm .
atheists will think this is fluff.. most christians will judge it satanic.. some spiritual christians, pagans, wiccans, eastern meditaters and those w a spiritual interest might find something of worth in this essay.
enjoy.
Robdar
I don't mind talking, although i'm fairly new to this field. How would we do it? Would you unlock your email for a bit, or should i?
SS
great work tom:.
< http://www.intrex.net/tallyman/wt_beats.html
Jan
You think parents beating their kids isn't to be classified as violence. Oh well.
Do you believe that parents killing their own children, as commanded in the ot, is good? I guess so. You must be happy about the slacks killing their bad kid.
Cyg
I saw a quote within the last 3 weeks or so from, i think it was a 99wt that said beating kids would expunge the badness in them. Unfortunately, i didn't save it. Will try to find it.
My parents who abused me verbally and physically would have read some of what sf point to.You must realise that even these old wt admonitions are still being acted on today, no? The older elders still have all that training in their heads. The wt has never recinded them.
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Even conspiracy theorists post some nonconspiracy stuff now and then. Don't reject it because you my have rejected the others.
SS
the 1 chronicles author lists the descendents of david; some of these, in order, are jehoshaphat, jehoram, ahaziah, joash, amaziah, azariah, jotham, ahaz, hezekiah, manasseh (1 chronicles 3:10-13 niv).
the matthew author contradicts this genealogy; he leaves out the four consecutive descendents underlined above, and in their place puts uzziah, who he says is jehorams son.
(matthew 1:8-10 niv).
I am impressed, in a way pom, but if the pattern you explain is so important, why didn't god make it happen that way, instead of matthew lying about it. The picture this gives is totally human origins of this book. God wasn't there. Matthew the Mathematically Masturbating Magician.
SS shaking his head
i was so clueless when it came to christmas traditions for two reasons.. 1.raised as a witness therefore never experienced it.. 2.grew up in country or rural areas and they didnt practice all the traditions.. ok, so i grow up and eventually find myself living in a large city for the first time in my life.. this makes me sound like a total hick but bear with me and you will see where this is going.. one winter evening i am peacefully watching tv and spending time with my little jw family downstairs and the doorbell rings.. i say its dark who could that be?
then i go upstairs and open the front door.. there were at least 20 people standing on my front lawn!.
i am shocked and confused then it registers they are singing christmas carols!!!.
Ranchette
That's a really interesting story. I totally understand the embarassment. At this time, I would rather have carollers at front door than.....practically anybody. It would be really coool.
SS
this was so funny!!!
a friend of mine is involved in a bitter divorce, custody, visitation situation, for a close relative of hers.
she got a copy of the long, involved court report, and in that report, we are mentioned as being "postdates" of jw's, which means "that they talk bad about other witnesses, sort of like being the control of satan.
'Postdates' Hmmmm. Are they cookies? I always liked fig newtons, maybe i would like posdates too.
SS
the 1 chronicles author lists the descendents of david; some of these, in order, are jehoshaphat, jehoram, ahaziah, joash, amaziah, azariah, jotham, ahaz, hezekiah, manasseh (1 chronicles 3:10-13 niv).
the matthew author contradicts this genealogy; he leaves out the four consecutive descendents underlined above, and in their place puts uzziah, who he says is jehorams son.
(matthew 1:8-10 niv).
Pom
Who made more mistakes, joseph alward or god?
Who is older, joseph alward or god?
Who is more bitter, joseph alward or god?
Who is more inconsistent, joseph alward or god?
(ap) "the proliferation of interfaith services after terrorists struck america have unsettled some conservative protestants, who feel joint worship violates their belief that christianity is the only true faith.. in one case, the rev.
david oberdieck filed charges with the lutheran church-missouri synod over a fellow pastor who joined non-christian clergy in the sept. 23 yankee stadium service, ``a prayer for america.''.
``i wouldn't have brought charges if jesus christ was confessed in such a way that he stood out from the smorgasbord of gods,'' said oberdieck, pastor of trinity lutheran church in lebanon, mo.
REX
REX
Would you, as a good baptist, allow that the percentage of lutherans who are 'in salvation' is similar to the percentage of baptists who are 'in salvation'?
SS
http://www.paxprofundis.com/parush/tradition.htm .
atheists will think this is fluff.. most christians will judge it satanic.. some spiritual christians, pagans, wiccans, eastern meditaters and those w a spiritual interest might find something of worth in this essay.
enjoy.
Robdar
Thanks. Glad you liked it. I thought the rest of the site had a couple of interesting observations. For one, how to find a teacher.
SS
great work tom:.
< http://www.intrex.net/tallyman/wt_beats.html
Thanks skally, for posting this. On the one side is the wt/bible-ot advocating parental violence. On the other, the 'world' is depicted as gentle on kids. It is becoming more clear which is the better method. Reading this brings back a lot of sadness.
