A couple of them are down here in SoCal...I'm sure they'll see the post when they're done playing. :) Again, wish I could go. Of course, I move and now stuff happens in Seattle. Go figure.
Alicia
i'm purposing a silentlambs candle light vigil / potluck for a local park on saturday, september 28th.
we could do a candlelight vigil on the 27th also, but picked the weekend for more people to show up.
e-mail me if interested, and i will set it up.
A couple of them are down here in SoCal...I'm sure they'll see the post when they're done playing. :) Again, wish I could go. Of course, I move and now stuff happens in Seattle. Go figure.
Alicia
we had a total of 5 people show up, including myself, bruce baker presented the lamb, and left a press packet on the door, with copys of the new york times articles.
i got some pictures and video, and we had a reporter for the seattle times, and komo tv 4 show up, they both talked with us for almost an hour.
it was great to have a couple of people share they're personal experiences about being molested with the reporters.
Great job, Charlie. Wish I could've been there. Thanks for sharing the pictures.
Alicia
into the borg?.
i fortunately was never able to have a bible study grow all the way to the point of baptism.
but for those of you who did, do you feel guilty about bringing another person into what i think of as a cult?
When I was in high school my close (non-JW) friend and I were getting even closer. We figured the only way to spend more time together was to have her attend meetings, and then that way she was at gatherings and such with me. Well, eventually they got after her for a book study and she did it, but luckily pretty much said screw it after a couple years (about when I left, too).
At least now when shows like Dateline, or articles about JW's pop up, I have someone to talk to about it who has been through some of it with me. Not a childhood like mine, but she is aware of how certain things went down. Definitely makes it easier deal with.
I don't know what I would've done if she had kept up with the meetings and gotten baptized. I most likely would be feeling some big time guilt.
Alicia
i'm interested in obtaining one of the latest - 2002?
- wts cds.
if anyone has access to them, please email me.
Don't forget, another reason it may take so long to put the years' literature on the CD, they have to read through it and decide what words to change or cut, to completely manipulate to cover their asses. You know, in case they decided to change their mind about something a couple months later.
Alicia
when you were associated in the congregation, were you treated in a way that made you feel like you were a 2nd class citizen?
how were you regarded?
were you the brunt of criticism or were you pretty much well-liked?
I was never treated very well, always looked down upon. But then again, now matter how hard I tried to hide from everyone else, having a mother who was blind, and a father that snored during the meeting didn't help. I was invited to gatherings for the kids my age but was pretty much ignored. The few who paid attention to me and actually acted like friends immediately ditched me when I showed signs of depression. Oh, and when the whole stalking/attack issue came up I was laughed at and told I was making it up.
I would say the only ones who treated me well were a few older brothers and sisters. One of them to this day talks to me like I'm a human being even though I'm no long one of "them".
Oh yeah, another reason why so many families couldn't stand me (and I'm sure my whole family) was because we didn't have a car and always needed a ride to the meetings. Believe me, I dreaded the meetings just because of the ride factor. Soon as I was old enough and my parents let me, I walked to the meetings so I could leave as soon as possible.
No gooey memories here.
Alicia
robdar has knee surgery today,,,just wanted to wish her the best!!
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hope all is going well,,,,and you recover fast...hugs to you
I've had two knee surgeries so I know it's not an easy thing to go thru. The best of luck with your recovery and hopefully you'll be like usual soon.
Alicia
there are so many horror stories about elders.
many people dislike or can't stand elders, in general.
a number here have been truly hurt by some.
Yes, there were a couple elders that really helped me. It was frustrating, growing up with my dad and his temper (found out later he was bipolar like myself), because all most of the elders did was suggest to my dad to pray more, to have a better relationship with Jehovah, blah blah, when in reality, he just needed a few more pushes towards getting some help. He had his issues, yes, but I feel most of the elders just pushed him a way and made it worse.
Anyhow, I had little trust for elders in general because of that, but there were a few that actually earned respect from me. I genuinely looked forward to talking to them at the meetings (not the meetings themselves, though, lol) and hearing what they had to say to me personally. There was one I had great respect for but he lost it after the way he treated me at a meeting ("counseling" me on my rapes) I've mentioned before.
The two that really stand out in my mind were Br. Hagbloom (sp?) who has died. He was the sweetest old man, and even one of the elders who went over the questions with me, and he was like the grandfather I never had. I really did miss him when he was gone. The other is Br. Wright (sorry, don't know your screename). When my sister told me him and his family were "out", I was so very happy. Our family attended book studies at his home for a few years and he was the most encouraging and understanding elder I've ever encountered. Even when he was counseling he was never condescending and there was always a little joke in there somewhere.
I am glad I'm able to say I had some good experiences with elders, though I have to say the negatives ones are what helped me escape. So in their own way, those experiences were beneficial as well.
Alicia
i wanted to pull this out into its own thread...this is the press release that will be going out as soon as we reach our goal...please go to http://www.amazon.com/paypage/p2ranmtqodei4e to get us there!.
here is the text of the press release...don't send it around just yet!.
for immediate release.
BTW, Mike, I originally read of your story on morons.org, via a link from Fark. Funny, how I come here everyday and I read it there first. Either way, I am glad I found out.
Alicia
i wanted to pull this out into its own thread...this is the press release that will be going out as soon as we reach our goal...please go to http://www.amazon.com/paypage/p2ranmtqodei4e to get us there!.
here is the text of the press release...don't send it around just yet!.
for immediate release.
I agree with Marilyn, very easy payment option. I gave a few dollars, not much, but what I could. It sickens me to hear about your story and what happen, as well as all the others. Good luck with the trip and you plan.
My thoughts are with you and your family.
Alicia
yep, there are 19 of us here at princess' apostafest!
whooooohoooooo are we ever having fun.. sorry i'm so computer illiterate i would show you pics (we just took a group picture)!!.
let me clarify, there are 19 posters here with their parteners and kids.
Auuugh! I so wanted to make it up there but couldn't this time. At least my sister (kikisdragon) was able to tell me about it, and hopefully there'll be one next year. Sounds like everyone had a blast. :)
Alicia