What Stev2 said hehe
Also i have to say, most of the rank and file i have been in contact with have been lovely
What Stev2 said hehe
Also i have to say, most of the rank and file i have been in contact with have been lovely
my wife & i are house sitting , interstate , for a freind who is overseas , near a former congregation we attended for the best part of 20 years .the last kh we attended was in `93 ?
for a funeral.
yesterday i was in line at an atm when this woman walked past me and went into the chemists.she looked familiar so i waited for her to come out and said are you b....?
Completely incomprehensible and hypocritical. This isn't unusual at all unfortunately. My friend who has faded and lives in another country to his family was the one that had to travel back home at every opportunity to look after his mum while she was having her treatment for cancer. His brother, who is a special pioneer in a local congregation didn't assist at all - it was all left to the "worldly" family members. Very sad I think (though on a positive note, his mum was given the all clear after treatment).
according to wt doctrine jehovah's witnesses will be singled out and persecuted during a time described in this way: "for then there will be great tribulation such as has not occurred since the worlds beginning until now, no, nor will occur again.
" according to the watchtower the devil will turn on god's people will all his might (if he really exists, why hasn't he done so already?
) in an attempt to wipe them out.. also, it's not promised that all jws will escape unscathed during this period of time.. even before i woke up fully to ttatt i really thought about what that meant.
I used to have nightmares about it quite frequently. Always loads of torture and something dire happening to someone i love. I remember one quite vivid dream where my mum became possessed by the devil, turned into a witch and started screaming in a voice that sounded like it came from a japanese concentration camp and i think her head exploded. and me and my sisters were calmly "remaining faithful" lol
been on this site 8 months now, but not on a daily basis.
recently discoverd a poster named processor, loved his tread on the life of jesus.
anyway the guys posts never seem to make long threads.
There are so many. I'm always learning from here.
i m a little curious because i have hard to see that every single person has the interest to stand up and sing in the beginning and in the end of every meeting...... what will happen if you are interested in the so called truth, not to stand up and sing a song against your will?!
then, is it okay to sit down like normal when everybody else copy each other (stand up an sing a certain text/song) as parrots?.
I used to love singing. i was one of those annoying people who sang louder than average (actually our cong had a reputation for great singing and nearly every visitor and CO would comment on it). i refused to sing some of the songs in the latest songbook where they had inexplicably kept the words the same but changed the melody to something hideous. And I ALWAYS refused to sing The Light Gets Brighter in the prev songbook because that was god-awful boring and went on forever.
was just wondering how many gay exjw's were on this site, and how did you deal with being in this organization?
and also, how did you end up leaving?.
Wow TrappedInJWLand - so many great comments on here - hope you can now feel at least a little comforted that you are not alone in this!
(PS to Mouthy - thanks and so pleased for your granddaughter. How cool that she has you as a grandma! And HeartofABoy, yes I guess most of our stories are fundamentally the same! Warm hug to you.)
anyone who has awakened to ttatt and conscientiously left the organization--especially a once-prominent individual from a prominent multi-generational tribe of jws-- after decades of devout, high-profile "serve-us," who continues to put in an annual appearance at the memorial thoroughly subverts and undermines, by this one act, any hope s/he may entertain that his/her departure will stir family or former friends to question the whole watchtower bamboozle.
by this one concession s/he assigns him-/herself by every single jw to their handy and dimissive purgatory: the "spiritually-weak.".
nothing blasts a louder, clearer, and more deliberate message to the jws who personally knew you and those familiar with your jw bona fides that you are not merely "not making the meetings" or "spiritually-weak" but that there is a conscientious reason you have rejected the entire watchtower society life than choosing to forego what they know you know to be their one-and-only holy and sacred event of the year, the lord's evening meal.
Amnesiano
Couldnt agree with you more. That's why i didn't attend this year and incidentally why i also won't be going to the district (international) convention this year. Both firsts for me. Thanks for your post.
was just wondering how many gay exjw's were on this site, and how did you deal with being in this organization?
and also, how did you end up leaving?.
Hey Trapped and welcome. Yes another one here.
Here's my story up to the beginning of my fade, if it's of interest/help (it's a bit long but it helped me no end to get it all out there!). The only update being that I haven't been to the meetings for a year.
To answer your questions:
(1) It was a nightmare towards the end from an emotional health perspective. I only found happiness once I left and became authentic - not just talking about my sexuality here, but just about my beliefs in general - e.g.shunning.
(2) I built up my friendships outside of the congregation and made a transition. Gradually spending more and more time with my "worldly" friends. I have been very lucky, I think, and I have never been short of support from my non-JW friends. I also have very good historical friends both straight and gay who have are ex-JW (my best friend is gay and faded before I did, though he is still mentally in unfortunately) and I also connected with an ex-JW LGBT support group - all lovely people. Let me know if you need any more information. I know it's not easy so let me know if you need any more information.
Sending big hugs your way
my first year after more than 20 years.... it seems strange.
happy fellings but at the same times feeling some loniness.. is your first one as well?.
veterans: how do you feel after some many years?.
First one I've missed ever. the only thing that bothers me is when my mum asks if I went. always hated the event itself so no love lost there.
i remember those long distant days when I used to get PMs...it's a sign of the last days that I don't get any anymore. the love of the greater number of apostates is cooling off hehe ;)