Sometimes I feel like getting away
Out of my life, away from the madness
Sometimes I feel like running away
Out of the light, into the dark...
waisted days and waisted nites.. freddy fender..
Sometimes I feel like getting away
Out of my life, away from the madness
Sometimes I feel like running away
Out of the light, into the dark...
question: can any of you that have successfully faded out of the jw world without being df'd or da'd relate to me/us how you were able to maintain at least one or a few of your "still in" friends or family?
(and even if you were df'd or da'd and still maintained some relationships, how did that go?).
obviously, the truly demented, sick and twisted (and highly effective) policies and structure of the wtbt$ to set up a system by which anyone that chooses to no longer believe or participate must be treated as "mentally diseased" and a pariah by their own friends and family is the hands down, numero uno reason why many hundreds of thousands and possibly millions of jw's do not leave.
I started fading in 2011 and have been completely meeting-free for about 18 months. My family back home are fine when I visit. We never talk about JW stuff, it's the elephant in the room. My bestie from my cong stuck by me for a long while when I was only going to the occasional meeting. Then last year she sent me a text to say she wouldnt be coming over anymore. When I see her in the street she says hello and we have a polite chat. But really as Sporece and OnTheWayOut said - don't expect to keep your friends. Fading is worth it for keeping in touch with family but that's about all. If it wasn't for family I would have DA'd by now.
make new friends. i have some life friends who faded before me but I have also made some true non-witness friends over the years. It's only when you leave that you understand true friendship.
i am in need of support!!.
i'm meant to be flying to washington from the uk in december and am frightened of flying.
well, not flying exactly, more the falling out of the sky bit.
What D8TA said.
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i was already on my way to my second fade when i went to the wildlife photographer of the year 2012 exhibition, but this photo made me lose faith in the idea of a loving creator......(the gazelle has been injured by the mother cheetah so she can use it to train her cubs to hunt).
👍 What Rebel8 said. Nature is brutal. A loving designer would surely have designed the process of life and survival differently.
had you going there for a minute ;).
now you're here... there are several problems with that illustration, as i see it.. ..... 1) god is the one who inflicted the life threatening ailment that requires an operation.
(he supposedly decided what sin would be defined as, then once adam 'sinned', he cursed all of adams descendants to sin, grow old and die.).
Great OP.
I also think it's like a surgeon who knows how to cure the children (I.e God), letting another surgeon (Satan) to maim torture the kids etc and not intervening because then people might think he's colluding with the evil surgeon. You're right it just doesn't make any sense.
i'm up to about 30k words at the moment and still going strong.. i don't expect it'll ever get off the ground.....at least i'm going to try though.. i'm thinking of 6 months time and looking at the route of self publishing.
yes, i want to be a publisher.. it's very violent in places, has violent sexual scenes and very strong language.. it's everything the watchtower(r) said i should avoid.....i wonder if my authentic self has exploded into freedom?.
if you want more info or wish to read a snippet let me know.. i can't think of a title and have changed it several times, at the moment it's called 'boomshot.
Good on ya Punk. Keep at it - don't be lazy like I am with my music!
i've been given permission to post news of our friend.. kate hasn't been very well.
not well at all.
i think much of it has been a delayed reaction to her df'ing, the general fallout when leaving the wtbs and family issues.. i just wanted to give you guys the heads up and give you a chance to show how much we care about her.. thanks for listening..
I'm a bit late but wishing you well Kate xx
i hope they lock this guy up for a very long time!.
http://www.barryanddistrictnews.co.uk/news/latestnews/11306548.church_elder_found_guilty_of_rape_and_sexual_assaults/?ref=var_0.
Sorry Listener! I didn't see your post before writing mine. Good to know we're on the same wavelength!
i hope they lock this guy up for a very long time!.
http://www.barryanddistrictnews.co.uk/news/latestnews/11306548.church_elder_found_guilty_of_rape_and_sexual_assaults/?ref=var_0.
I'm a strong believer that no matter how evil someone has been in the past, they should be given a chance of rehabilitation and forgiven if they are truly sorry, have stopped whatever evil acts they did and tried to make amends. So on that basis I do not blame the WTS for reinstating him if he was genuinely repentant. But this raises questions in my mind. I don't know all the facts of this case but what were his "works befitting repentance"? Did they include telling him to go to the police to confess his crime? Surely that should have been a minimum requirement.
coming soon to a district convention near you, it's the aposto-blimp!.
be on the lookout for the latest technology for telling the truth about the truth: a five meter long, helium filled blimp which will cruise about the hapless fools at a district convention.
made from tear-resistant mylar with propellors powered by lightweight lithium power cells, the blimp will be guided by a small computer with gps assistance and will follow its flight path in and around the stadium for hours at a time.
A static blimp (or barrage balloon), moored nearby the stadium and high enough for many in the audience to see (Ideally behind the speaker's stand), with JWFacts.com emblazoned on it could be very powerful in all seriousness.