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  New World Translation is not much different other translations

  by Abraham1 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  key scripture 2 timothy 3:16 should have been translated as “every scripture inspired of god is also profitable for teaching” like many other serious translations (such as american standard version ; douay-rheims bible etc) as it is what the greek text says.. this is in harmony with the contents of bible and also with the writer paul himself who knew after his departure ‘even from his own number men will arise and distort the truth.’ (acts 20:29-30) for example, verses such as romans 7:19 is such distortion.

  such verses cannot originate from real paul who was “holy, righteous and blameless.” (1 thessalonians 2:10) hence paul had the freeness of speech to tell others to be “blameless” like him (1 thessalonians 5:19-23; ephesians 5:24) there are many things in the scriptures which are not inspired such as words of satan, words of job’s wife and his false friends, words of judas, lot’s daughters …etc.

  apostle peter never disowned jesus because if he had done so, his contemporaries would have interrupted him when he rebuked jews, saying: “you disowned the holy and righteous one and asked that a murderer be released to you.“ (acts 3:14) his listeners would have asked him “what right do you have to reprove us for ‘disowning jesus” when you yourself have done it first?” all such verses or accounts were later adoptions.

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  What was that about “A civil question deserves at least a civil answer”?
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  Tony Morris hijacking GB

  by asp59 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  has the gb been hijacked by tony morris?

  hes the host many times on jw videos.

  saying gb members wanting him too host.

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  Rivergang

  asp59,

  Being a “pioneer” certainly fast-tracked one to an appointed position. Marvellous what doors it opened, that certain column on the Monthly Report form which is entitled “Hours”!
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  Faith-Apostasy-Atheism

  by DoubtingThomas in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have been on m any different forums, and only carm is similar to this.. all the rest have rather hypocritical trust in god.. this and carm are for those who apostate to the wtbs and to god.. turned off by the gb, or hypocritical examples in the congregation, they drop worshiping god and their belief in the bible... for they know too much,.

  that's why scripture isn't discussed, and jws like me, are demonized.. i am cool with that!

  maybe some of you will come to their senses!.

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  Rivergang

  I think the term "Religioned Out" best describes many who leave the JWs.

  That is certainly how I felt after I finally managed to break free from that bloody lot!
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  We are now around 25 years past the point when Armageddon was to arrive as PROMISED!

  by nowwhat? in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  absolute worst case scenario, the last of the generation that saw the events of 1914 would have died off would be in the mid to late 1990's!

  so we were told in the 1980's!

  so now we 3/4 of another generation past that!.

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  To put things in perspective, CT Russell used Pyramidology to back up the whacky ideas that he had already concocted. Incredible as it may now seem to us, there was a time when Pyramidology was taken very seriously, rather then viewed as the pseudo-science that it really is.
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  1975 and so on.

  by zachias in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  yes i was there.. when we were all told.. 1975 is the time.

  i was new to the jw thing but i knew then "that no man knoweth the day nor the hour....".. https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5647286362177536/1975-on.

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  It wasn’t only the JWs who made an issue out of 1975. Herbert W Armstrong, of the Worldwide Church of God, also had much to say about that date, to the point of circulating a booklet entitled 1975 in Prophecy - a copy of which may be viewed through the following link www.hwalibrary.com/booklets/1975inProphecy

  Of course, his predictions were no more accurate than anybody else’s!
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  We are now around 25 years past the point when Armageddon was to arrive as PROMISED!

  by nowwhat? in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  absolute worst case scenario, the last of the generation that saw the events of 1914 would have died off would be in the mid to late 1990's!

  so we were told in the 1980's!

  so now we 3/4 of another generation past that!.

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  What if they were to tell you it’d be next year?

  I would ask politely for a drag on one of the same type of cigarettes that he/she has been smoking!
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  Dimwits running the show

  by punkofnice in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i often found that there were some real dimwits that thought they were marvellous.

  a sort of dunning kruger spectrum going on.. donkeys leading princes.

  just like our corrupt and retarded politicians.

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  We had a whippersnapper who got appointed as an elder - an appointment that went completely to his head, leaving him with delusions of grandeur. He thought that the fact he was an elder automatically meant that he knew more about every possible subject than those of us who weren’t. Trouble was, what he really knew about most things could have been written on the back of a postage stamp!
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  1975 and so on

  by zeb in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhn6zf1hl2a.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zf8vhemlyfu.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvkxmqe0qzk.

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  What was written about 1975 certainly left the thought hanging there, and made plain what conclusion the WTS wanted its readers to draw from it.

  Often, though, what was said from the platform made an even stronger impression; one such example, of course, being that 1967 talk by Charles Sinutko. (Another was one of the concluding talks at a Circuit Assembly from late in 1974. In that, the District Overseer finished by confidently declaring "We still stand by our date of 1975!" ).
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  CO retirement severance?

  by road to nowhere in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a friend says the wt gives a substantial sum to retiring cos. he says one bought land and built near him, a desirable rural area.

  i think it must have been saved green handshake money or inherited.. btw this man also thinks the gb are the smartest men alive..

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  All I know is that of the congregations I was with, the CO would have received little if anything in the way of a “green handshake”. Nobody had the proverbial “two bob to rub together”, let alone to lavish the Circuit Overseer with gifts of cash.
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  WHO finally admits that the shit don't work.

  by pistolpete in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  the main reason most got the vaccine was to protect others.

  now they’re being told they can spread it just as easily as the unvaccinated.

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  30 years ago, when my family and I first went to live in a malaria-prone area, we religiously took as a prophylactic the recommended weekly dosage of two Chloroquine tablets. From that experience, I would not exactly describe either Chloroquine or its more soluble and slightly less toxic variant, Hydroxychloroquine, as "candy".

  Yuk !!!

  Even back then, Chloroquine was rapidly losing its effectiveness as an anti-malarial medicine. So much so that after about 12 months, we abandoned the practice of taking regular doses of the stuff (particularly after the Director of Malaria Control himself stated that the best protection against the disease was to avoid being bitten by mosquitoes).

  There are now very, very few malaria-affected parts of the world left in which Chloroquine / Hydroxychloroquine is still effective. This is particularly so where the deadly Falciparum strain of the parasite is prevalent (as it is across the whole continent of Africa). It is not surprising, then, that by the mid-2000s (if not earlier), most African countries had abandoned the use of Chloroquine as either the primary treatment for, or preventative of, malaria.

  - See the following extract from the American Journal of Tropical Medicine and Hygiene Trends in Antimalarial Drug Use in Africa (nih.gov)

  It is therefore highly doubtful if the use of either Chloroquine or Hydroxychloroquine is still widespread in Africa - despite claims to the contrary by the Australian businessman Clive Palmer.

  In fact, it is highly unlikely that either of those drugs have been in widespread use in Africa for almost 15 years now.