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  Retirement savings

  by TxNVSue2023 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what's the current jw stance on retirement savings?

  i know it changed.

  pre1975 it was an attitude of "don't worry about retirement, this system is ending soon".

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  Rivergang

  Balaamsass2,

  Sounds a bit like the Dervishes in the Sudan. Their religious leader assured them that their "faith would render them bulletproof". However, though, if they did get themselves shot, it was all their own fault for "not having enough faith".

  Similarly, the WTS/GB assures its adherents that as long as they "put Jehovah first" then all their material needs will be met. However, if they do experience material hardship, as your ex-wife did, then it is still their own fault for "not being more balanced."

  In other words, if everything goes right then it is a case of "We told you that was going to happen"; but if it all goes wrong, then it is very much as case of "It's your own bloody fault".

  Talk about expecting to have it both ways!
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  My Prediction Regarding New Space Telescope That Will See Back to 100 Million Years From the Big Bang

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a new space telescope launched a few days age that will supposedly be able to see to within 100 million years of the big bang.

  wow... only 100 million years from the big bang.

  that is pretty early given the 12 billion year age of the universe assigned by scholars who adhere to naturalism.

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  Rivergang

  Peacefulpete,

  The old adage comes to mind here “A little knowledge is dangerous”.

  (Ref. that article in www.space.com)
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  Retirement savings

  by TxNVSue2023 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what's the current jw stance on retirement savings?

  i know it changed.

  pre1975 it was an attitude of "don't worry about retirement, this system is ending soon".

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  Rivergang

  Back in the day, those who “never bought into the 1975 nonsense” certainly did an excellent job of keeping their views a secret!
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  Could this be the end of JWs? What are the consequences if it is?

  by Teddnzo in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  multiple very serious allegations against tony and then huge efforts to remove him from all pictures and videos, have to admit it doesn’t look good.. once the pennsylvania investigation becomes public knowledge and front page news it will be very very hard for 8 million pimis.. is it possible that this could be the largest problem the branch has ever faced?

  larger than 1975, the overlapping generations or any other ‘test of faith’.

  many will feel heartbroken and betrayed.

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  Rivergang

  Haven’t we heard all this before?

  (Yet despite everything - and like rats and cockroaches which survive a nuclear explosion - this bloody lot continues).
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  The Messianic Prophecies and Their Fulfillment in Jesus

  by aqwsed12345 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the belief in the messiah, which has lived in the collective consciousness of humanity since ancient times, became completely obscured among the gentiles, and only remained with the jewish people, who were later chosen by god, as the prophecies of the prophets kept it alive.

  there was only one great promise in the old testament from god, which awaited fulfillment!

  only one great desire was there in the old testament on the part of man, longing for satisfaction.

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  Rivergang

  I am with Smiddy on this one!
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  Fellow exElders: did you ever get to hear of ...

  by no-zombie in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when i was serving as an elder, it because relatively common to hear of wild drunken house parties of witness youths.

  i investigated one, it was so bad that the cops turned up and found empty bottles of whiskey on the lawn and smashed out on the road.

  but every led went cold, with all the kids clamming up.

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  Rivergang

  The JWs I knew must have been a rather straight-laced lot ; I never knew of any of these type of occurrences.
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  Regarding new "Morning Worship" video - John Ekrann: "The Love of Money" (2 Tim. 3:2)

  by EasyPrompt in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the man spends nine minutes and sixteen seconds condemning all the behaviors that the wtbt$ is guilty of without even realizing he's doing it.. .

  (as he sits in a studio in a compound build with "voluntary donations" where they are fed and clothed and cleaned and insured with "voluntary donations" and drive cars purchased with "voluntary donations" all associated with a corporation founded on a selling-literature-business and now often funded by building/restoring real estate with slave labor and then selling it to pay for some elders at bethel to live on a lake and take jets to give talks to worshipful doting masses at convention centers in various parts of the earth.).

  "but know this, that in the last days critical times hard to deal with will be here.

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  Rivergang

  Oh yeah - they are all the bloody same, without exception.
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  Are we living in the LAST DAYS?

  by Fisherman in

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  2. beliefs

  are we living in the prophetic last days that will climax into armageddon?

  if this is true then how long should it take?

  as jw saw it, wt compared timing to within a generation using 70 ad as a parallel.

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  Rivergang

  THE LAST SAYS will indeed take place - some four billion years from now, when the sun finally runs out of nuclear fuel.
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  Is WT Teachig on Hell Biblical?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i guess you could say jesus was the first christian, since he was the christ.

  and as the first christian, jesus spoke more about hell that any other biblical figure.

  but, he is also the figure that said that he didn't come to condemn the world, but to save it.

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  Rivergang

  Honestly, who gives a F#ck?!

  I certainly don’t
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  If You Can Remember When This Was Displayed in the KH - You Ain't No Spring Chicken!

  by mikronboy in

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  2. friends

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  Rivergang

  Discontinued about the time the Elder arrangement came in.

  10 hours, one “bible study”, 12 magazines per month, so many books and so many “back calls” - or else you received The Pineapple.

  Talk about Salvation by Report Card!