what's the current jw stance on retirement savings?
i know it changed.
pre1975 it was an attitude of "don't worry about retirement, this system is ending soon".
Further to this, back when I defied my parents and threw my lot in with the JWs, my father did warn me that, if I ever got into any trouble, the only people who would help me would be the family - whom I had spurned.
Bloody hell, but was he right on the money!
This includes, too, that Jehovah character whom we were told to trust in. He (or she/they/it or whatever) was always very conspicuous by his absence when a person was down to the bones of their backside!
what's the current jw stance on retirement savings?
i know it changed.
pre1975 it was an attitude of "don't worry about retirement, this system is ending soon".
Balaamsass2,
Sounds a bit like the Dervishes in the Sudan. Their religious leader assured them that their "faith would render them bulletproof". However, though, if they did get themselves shot, it was all their own fault for "not having enough faith".
Similarly, the WTS/GB assures its adherents that as long as they "put Jehovah first" then all their material needs will be met. However, if they do experience material hardship, as your ex-wife did, then it is still their own fault for "not being more balanced."
In other words, if everything goes right then it is a case of "We told you that was going to happen"; but if it all goes wrong, then it is very much as case of "It's your own bloody fault".
Talk about expecting to have it both ways!
a new space telescope launched a few days age that will supposedly be able to see to within 100 million years of the big bang.
wow... only 100 million years from the big bang.
that is pretty early given the 12 billion year age of the universe assigned by scholars who adhere to naturalism.
Peacefulpete,
The old adage comes to mind here “A little knowledge is dangerous”.
(Ref. that article in www.space.com)
what's the current jw stance on retirement savings?
i know it changed.
pre1975 it was an attitude of "don't worry about retirement, this system is ending soon".
Back in the day, those who “never bought into the 1975 nonsense” certainly did an excellent job of keeping their views a secret!
multiple very serious allegations against tony and then huge efforts to remove him from all pictures and videos, have to admit it doesn’t look good.. once the pennsylvania investigation becomes public knowledge and front page news it will be very very hard for 8 million pimis.. is it possible that this could be the largest problem the branch has ever faced?
larger than 1975, the overlapping generations or any other ‘test of faith’.
many will feel heartbroken and betrayed.
Haven’t we heard all this before?
(Yet despite everything - and like rats and cockroaches which survive a nuclear explosion - this bloody lot continues).
the belief in the messiah, which has lived in the collective consciousness of humanity since ancient times, became completely obscured among the gentiles, and only remained with the jewish people, who were later chosen by god, as the prophecies of the prophets kept it alive.
there was only one great promise in the old testament from god, which awaited fulfillment!
only one great desire was there in the old testament on the part of man, longing for satisfaction.
I am with Smiddy on this one!
when i was serving as an elder, it because relatively common to hear of wild drunken house parties of witness youths.
i investigated one, it was so bad that the cops turned up and found empty bottles of whiskey on the lawn and smashed out on the road.
but every led went cold, with all the kids clamming up.
The JWs I knew must have been a rather straight-laced lot ; I never knew of any of these type of occurrences.
the man spends nine minutes and sixteen seconds condemning all the behaviors that the wtbt$ is guilty of without even realizing he's doing it.. .
(as he sits in a studio in a compound build with "voluntary donations" where they are fed and clothed and cleaned and insured with "voluntary donations" and drive cars purchased with "voluntary donations" all associated with a corporation founded on a selling-literature-business and now often funded by building/restoring real estate with slave labor and then selling it to pay for some elders at bethel to live on a lake and take jets to give talks to worshipful doting masses at convention centers in various parts of the earth.).
"but know this, that in the last days critical times hard to deal with will be here.
Oh yeah - they are all the bloody same, without exception.
are we living in the prophetic last days that will climax into armageddon?
if this is true then how long should it take?
as jw saw it, wt compared timing to within a generation using 70 ad as a parallel.
THE LAST SAYS will indeed take place - some four billion years from now, when the sun finally runs out of nuclear fuel.
i guess you could say jesus was the first christian, since he was the christ.
and as the first christian, jesus spoke more about hell that any other biblical figure.
but, he is also the figure that said that he didn't come to condemn the world, but to save it.
Honestly, who gives a F#ck?!
I certainly don’t
