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  Armageddon Car

  by OnTheWayOut in

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  how many of you bought a nice sedan, suv, or even a minivan back in the days that you described as your "armageddon car" that you would care for and it would last until the end arrived?.

  i was driving a 1974 plymouth volare wagon in 1992 when i managed to get an 8-year old buick century.

  it was low mileage and had a very luxurious interior.

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  Rivergang

  I don’t know about an “Armageddon car”, but I well remember an Armageddon set of tyres. Early in 1975, one of the congregation’s elders was certain that the set of rubber on his Fiat 125 sedan was going to see out the system.
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  What's the Worst Advice You Heard of an Elder Giving Someone?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i believe an an elder told someone who's daughter (14 yo) became sexually active with a 26 year old in the neighborhood, that maybe they should get married.

  so, they did... with parental consent.

  he turned out to be a ex-convict who shot his first wife in the face with a shotgun.

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  Rivergang

  LHG

  Thanks!
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  What's the Worst Advice You Heard of an Elder Giving Someone?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i believe an an elder told someone who's daughter (14 yo) became sexually active with a 26 year old in the neighborhood, that maybe they should get married.

  so, they did... with parental consent.

  he turned out to be a ex-convict who shot his first wife in the face with a shotgun.

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  Rivergang

  Beth Sarim,

  I notice that those who have remained with the religion are a bit like “Christendom’s” church members:

  - they may give lip service to everything their religious leaders say, while quietly ignoring the more extreme demands of their religion.

  (In gambling terms, I believe it is called “Taking a bet both ways”)
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  What's the Worst Advice You Heard of an Elder Giving Someone?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i believe an an elder told someone who's daughter (14 yo) became sexually active with a 26 year old in the neighborhood, that maybe they should get married.

  so, they did... with parental consent.

  he turned out to be a ex-convict who shot his first wife in the face with a shotgun.

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  Rivergang

  Another thing about that bloody lot is the way they seem to think that they can - as it were - " Both hunt with the hounds and run with the hare - all at the same time".

  Just one example of this was during the big push for pious-sneering pioneering during 1980s.

  I can well recall in 1982, when our Circuit Overseer posed the question "Do you really think this system will still be going in ten years' time?" However, in his next sentence, he attempted to somewhat cover his backside, with the escape clause "Please don't go around saying 'The Circuit Overseer said the end will happen within the next ten years' ". (Sorry, Sandy Pannel, wherever you are now!)

  Aside from that, other bad advice which was commonly dished out during those years of the late 1960s / early 1970s was to do with the acquisition of property. Young couples were warned off from buying their own home, being told that they were "better off renting". Later, when things did not develop the way the WTS predicted, many now found that owning their own home was out of reach - when earlier, they might have been able to purchase one. (This is exactly what one can expect when religion pokes its ℲUCꓘIИǤ nose into people's personal affairs).

  Otherwise, how I envy those of you that didn't totally swallow the Kool Aid and are now retired! Now in my late sixties, I am still working full time (though luckily, my job - classified broadly as a "Busted @ss Electrician" - is not that physically demanding that I cannot manage). With a bit of luck, though, I ought to be able to give it way before my 70th birthday (which falls early next year).
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  What's the Worst Advice You Heard of an Elder Giving Someone?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i believe an an elder told someone who's daughter (14 yo) became sexually active with a 26 year old in the neighborhood, that maybe they should get married.

  so, they did... with parental consent.

  he turned out to be a ex-convict who shot his first wife in the face with a shotgun.

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  Rivergang

  Firstly, the usual - i.e. an elder who had sufficient sway over my father was able to prevent me from going to university.

  Not being content with that, though, some 12 months later this same prize act then told me to throw in my apprenticeship. (After being stopped from attending university, I had got a job as a trainee telecommunications technician).

  Damned fool that I was, I actually listed to this F#ck-wit!
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  It's that time - 'When Uranus and Jupiter meet' - how long before WW III?

  by was a new boy in

  1. social
  2. current

  it took 117 days in 1914 from when uranus and jupiter met on march 4, till the start of ww i on june 28,1914.. another conjunction today; 117 days from today is aug.16, 2024.. .

  https://www.astropro.com/features/tables/geo/ju-ur/ju-000-ur/ju000ur6.html.

  https://avoidjw.org/archive/magazines/1900-1909/.

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  Rivergang

  By Crikey, they have broken out in a fresh place!

  1982 was supposed to see a major catastrophe, caused by a planetary line-up.

  In 1974, the astrophysicist John Gribbin predicted in his book, "The Jupiter Effect", that when the planets lined up, the Earth would be caught in the middle of a huge gravity struggle between the Sun and the planets, especially the giant planet, Jupiter.

  These stresses, he claimed, would change the speed of the Earth in its orbit, and shift the centre of the solar system. He warned that geological fault lines would be ripped open, causing massive earthquakes. In fact, he went far enough to predict that " in 1982, when the Moon is in the seventh house, and Jupiter aligns with Mars and with the other seven planets of the solar system, Los Angeles will be destroyed"!

  Well, as predicted, the Grand Alignment happened, with the planets scattered over some 90 degrees. Los Angeles was not destroyed, life as we know it went on, and earthquake activity that year was completely normal. Recently, some of Gribbin's predictions have been dragged back out again, and various sensationalist magazines and TV shows are warning that we are all doomed.

  To the best of my knowledge, nothing much untoward happened during the year 1982!
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  Was Anyone Ever Disfellowshipped For Having a Beard?

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i read a comment somewhere that having a beard ( before such was allowed) was never a disfellowshippable offence.

  but does that mean that no-one who grew a beard was ever eventually disfellowshipped?.

  growing a beard when such was frowned upon would surely attract the attention of those with nothing better to do, and possibly lead to sniffing around to try and find things that the "disobedient" one was up to.

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  Rivergang

  Not a disfellowshipping matter, but would count against a brother being considered for “privileges”.

  (This did very , though, from congregation to congregation . Anyone here from Australia remember Newmarket congregation in Brisbane?)
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  SECRET RECORDING 14TH APRIL:RALPH WALLS: MORE CHANGES ARE COMING!

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  secret recording 14th april:ralph walls: more changes are coming!.

  ( broadcasted to all british congregations today).

  https://youtu.be/owg4bqj7pd0?si=yvfpkkos_qoy9u10.

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  Rivergang

  They are all one island. Same with Ireland and Scotland And Wales.

  Huh?

  England, Ireland Scotland and Wales are all on the same island?

  Somebody else here that needs to update their knowledge of geography!

  (Particularly about a certain body of water known as the "Irish Sea").
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  When JW.org drops 607BCE...

  by Nathan Natas in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  probably everyone else thought of this long ago, but i, being an "independent thunker" thunk of it just a coupla weeks ago.. we all know that since the year zero (on the fredfranzian calendar) the wtb&ts has defied archaeology and insisted that jerusalem was destroyed in 607 bce, even though the physical evidence shows that 587 bce is a more likely date.

  in fact, the book "the gentile times reconsidered: have jehovah's witnesses been wrong all along about 607 bce?

  " by carl olof jonsson and rud persson made this conversation public.. it is a difference of 20 years.

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  Rivergang

  As in

  ”APATHY?

  Who cares!”
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  When JW.org drops 607BCE...

  by Nathan Natas in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  probably everyone else thought of this long ago, but i, being an "independent thunker" thunk of it just a coupla weeks ago.. we all know that since the year zero (on the fredfranzian calendar) the wtb&ts has defied archaeology and insisted that jerusalem was destroyed in 607 bce, even though the physical evidence shows that 587 bce is a more likely date.

  in fact, the book "the gentile times reconsidered: have jehovah's witnesses been wrong all along about 607 bce?

  " by carl olof jonsson and rud persson made this conversation public.. it is a difference of 20 years.

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  Rivergang

  A bit like trying to play chess with a pigeon.

  It ignores the rules, knocks the chess pieces over willy-nilly, craps all over the board, then struts around like it has won the game!