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  Do you find it therapeutic coming to this site?

  by UnshackleTheChains in

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  i read on another thread how this site has helped another user and that for them it has been a form of therapy.. for me yes, jwn has most certainly been a form of therapy.. i recall the days i first came to jwn (in 2004) and couldn't​ believe i had found people who were of the same opinion as myself in regards to the society.

  it was this site that led me to reading ray franz's book 'crisis of conscience' which i read twice within a week.

  it also led me to jw facts that goes into every nook and cranny regarding the society's​ teachings, policies and history.. note: i also visit many other sites and watch you tube videos a lot, but gravitate here most of the time.. coming here to express my inner most thoughts and feelings has helped me no end and allows me to overcome my frustrations.

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  Re: Captives of A Concept

  I've just ordered it!
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  Do you find it therapeutic coming to this site?

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i read on another thread how this site has helped another user and that for them it has been a form of therapy.. for me yes, jwn has most certainly been a form of therapy.. i recall the days i first came to jwn (in 2004) and couldn't​ believe i had found people who were of the same opinion as myself in regards to the society.

  it was this site that led me to reading ray franz's book 'crisis of conscience' which i read twice within a week.

  it also led me to jw facts that goes into every nook and cranny regarding the society's​ teachings, policies and history.. note: i also visit many other sites and watch you tube videos a lot, but gravitate here most of the time.. coming here to express my inner most thoughts and feelings has helped me no end and allows me to overcome my frustrations.

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  This site has helped me so much because as you say, you 'get' it. Even my psychologist doesn't really understand. You've got to have been there to know. This site has helped me so much. People have been so kind and supportive.
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  Effectiveness of exposing child abuse

  by Tallon in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  thought i would try and gauge your views on the effectiveness of current child abuse exposure within the jw's.. i am aware of the arc investigation into historical and current child abuse, the uk charity commission investigation, and the excellent work of trey bundy.. however, how effective has the above been in exposing child abuse?.

  would not an investigation in the manner of spotlight, be more effective in exposing it to a wider audience?

  to prove that the abuse is 'systemic'?.

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  Phoebe

  Apart from the fact my JW neighbour has just heard the BBC radio 4 programme on JWs and abuse, no other JW I've spoken to has a clue. In fact they say, the organization is 'very hot' on dealing with child abuse. So, no, from my point of view it isn't getting heard and here no one has heard about the ARC or anything.
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  BBC Radio 4 feature on J.W child Abuse

  by Isambard Crater in

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  on the radio this morning.

  here is the link:.

  http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08njt79.

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  My neighbour, who is a JW, came to the door and told me he'd just listened to the radio 4 programme and he was shocked. He didn't realise it was so bad -- and he used to be an elder -- he said no wonder they are always short of money. Some Jws are starting to think...
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  Do you feel that you are really YOU?

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i am interested in finding out how you view yourself.

  are really you when it comes to every day interactions....ie when at work, with family or friends, or if attending meetings?.

  if still attending, do you feel you are not the real you at meetings?

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  Phoebe

  When I attend meetings (and right now I'm staying away) I am not me. I never have been me at the hall. I used to think there was something wrong with me because I couldn't be like other brothers and sisters. Talking the truth lingo never came naturally to me so I became a facade and I hated myself for it. I could never, ever be myself at the meetings and I thought I felt that way because I wasn't what Jehovah wanted and it was only a matter of time before he got rid of me.I was always a fish out of water at the meetings (I've been baptised 50 years)

  But now through my counseling session I'm learning to be me. Not at the hall. But just in life. I'm enjoying learning to be me without feeling guilty all the time. I've found out that 'me' isn't so bad after all. People (in the world) actually do like me.
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  Today's W.T on GB not being inspired is having ZERO impact on most J.W's

  by Isambard Crater in

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  the congregation i attend had it's watchtower study on thursday night because of l.d.c work this week-end, and another congregation i have some not very spiritual friends in had their watchtower study on wednesday.

  from what i have delicately prised out of people, the congregations loved the watchtower study this week, saying it was so encouraging and all the usual stuff, with no-one seeming to realise the g.b.

  said they're not inspired, so the spirit int he past has moved them to teach wrong things, and all the other ideas excellently summed up on reddit.. today's watchtower will wash over the heads of most j.w's like it never even happened, the all remaining as loyal as ever, and it makes me so, so sad..

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  tor15

  When I asked why are they building Warwick etc they said 'they are building it for after Armageddon'
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  Was it just me or was something different about the memorial last night?

  by kpop in

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  this was the first memorial that i declined to do any work for the memorial.

  i was assigned as a parking attendant after getting downgraded from doing the sound and had no intention of doing either task but i had to attend for my family and continuation of my fade.

  i sat there last night listening to the talk and couldn't help but shake my head as my brain attempted to process the bs.

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  They never mentioned any figures at all at mine, but we did get a story about how in America, George Wilson in 1829, a convicted bank robber on death row, refused his formal pardon by President Andrew Jackson and how they couldn't figure out what to do and took it to the supreme court.

  I thought that was quite interesting.

  Apart from that pretty much everyone scuttled home after as fast as they could. Mostly because it was so late and kids were tired. That's my 64th Memorial. I'm pretty much done with it all now but I thought I'd go to the memorial.
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  Getting older, losing loved ones

  by Gorbatchov in

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  2. friends

  just reading a posting about relive a day for one year of your live... .

  getting older, i am so sad thinking about years ago and missing my family members.

  am i the only one believing they would never die?.

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  Phoebe

  I feel your sadness Gorbatchov, my parents firmly believed they would live to see the new system but my mother died in 1988 and my dad in 1994. I'm getting up to their age now and even my psychologist talks about me being in my final years!

  I'm just sad that every one of my years has been dominated by 'the truth' I don't miss my mum, she brought us into this, my dad was opposed but came into eventually and then left when he was quite old. I wish he was here to talk to. When he kept saying the truth was wrong, I wouldn't listen. I wish I could have him back. Enjoy every moment of your family, here's wishing your parents will go on for a long, long time yet. X
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  I finally get why people like to shun.

  by poopie in

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  it finally hit me today.

  why do religions enjoy shunning.

  because many people feel like being close to god makes them special however just being special is not enough for many religious people that shun they must feel extra special how?

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  At out last C.O visit he said (about ignoring DF people) ' don't you go thinking there's a way round this, a loop hole, you think it's okay to text or email. It's not. You shouldn't do any of those things.'

  Today someone told me, we're not ignoring the person to bring them back, we're ignoring them so they don't corrupt us.

  One of my best friends is DF. She lives near me. It breaks my heart not to talk to her. Today she rang me and for the first time in years we had a chat. I told her I'm not ignoring her anymore. It's wrong. But she said if they catch you, they'll DF you. So let's talk in secret.'

  It's become like Orwell's 1984.
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  Just an update on me

  by Phoebe in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi everyone, i came on here a few weeks ago and told my story and you were so kind, caring and welcoming.

  your messages of support moved me to tears.

  i was so grateful.

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  Phoebe

  Thank you so much everyone. You have no idea how much your kind words mean to me. I'm taking to heart your words of comfort and advice. Isn't it ironic that I get no support from the 'brothers' and yet on here, in a cyber world where I don't know any of you, I am comforted and helped. That really is a sign to me to finally leave my life as a JW behind me. Yesterday was a turning point. I couldn't stay in that meeting a minute longer,I had to go.

  notlaone - your experience has really helped me. Thank you so much.

  James Jack - it was too long ago. I've lived with it so long and it's truly damaged me and it was through therapy I decided to seek closure on it.

  dubstepped I knew the elders had their hands tied, so to speak, but I thought if I appealed to my abuser and asked for an apology - that was all I wanted from him - then maybe I could finally put it behind me. But that's not happening and my elders don't seem to believe me now, anyway. As for any spiritual care? Nope, nothing from them.

  Giordano - Thank you for translation link - definitely using it. When I said to my friend if this is God's organization why is he allowing all this abuse to carry on? She said Jehovah allows things to happen, we have to wait on him!

  So to all of you lovely people, from the bottom of my heart - thank you. I hit rock bottom yesterday and you picked me up.