Phoebe

Joined

• started 33 topics
• posted 442 times   see topics posted on
• send a message

Posts by Phoebe

• 
  10

  Phone call with a disfellowshipped relative

  by Jules Saturn in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so i call my grandfather who has been inactive for several decades and he's at vacation in puerto rico.

  the conversation is normal, we talk about how he's doing down there and how i am doing.

  then he tells me that my cousin who i haven't seen in 5 years, is with him and asks if i would like to speak to him; i said yes.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Phoebe

  That was lovely to read, so happy for you and your cousin must have been thrilled.
• 
  14

  JWs Reaction to BBC Report

  by Phoebe in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for months i have been telling my friends - very devout jws - about the problem of child abuse in the organization but it wasn't until they saw the bbc report that they finally believed it.

  (i made mention of their reaction in an earlier post.).

  today they have emailed me to say the bbc report has hit them really hard.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Phoebe

  For months I have been telling my friends - very devout JWs - about the problem of child abuse in the organization but it wasn't until they saw the BBC report that they finally believed it. (I made mention of their reaction in an earlier post.)

  Today they have emailed me to say the BBC report has hit them really hard. They don't feel they can go out in the ministry because what if someone mentions it? How will they answer them? Another sister they know feels the same. She has a neighbour who is constantly bringing up the witness child abuse issue and she doesn't know what to say to him.

  I think this is good news...because if my friends are really hit hard by this, and they are very, very strong in 'the truth,' maybe it will help them wake up.

  To think they no longer want to go in the ministry because of it!
• 
  6

  A special message from Irwin Zalkin - (Attorney)

  by Tallon in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  thought you might like to hear that the fight for truth and justice is far from over.. https://www.facebook.com/ttattfilm/videos/1911836498830119/.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Phoebe

  @Tallon

  Thank you for this, I would have never seen it otherwise.
• 
  15

  The words I refuse to use

  by Chook in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  new system, brother, sister , kingdom hall, wordly person, in the truth .

  there is a whole jw language that has to be deprogrammed..

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Phoebe

  I could never get my head around COBE - Coordinator of body of elders...is that right? I'm still not sure.

  I got told off because I kept forgetting so would call him the 'CBeebies' (BBC programming for kids!)
• 
  2

  IICSA investigations

  by Phoebe in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  having just watched john cedars latest youtube video i am appalled that jws do not make up part of the investigation into institutions that have failed to protect children from sexual abuse.. i have emailed and begged them to reevaluate their decision.. if anyone else wants to do so, this is the email i used, i don't know if it's the right one, it's on their website.. [email protected].

  1. 
  2. 
• 

  Phoebe

  Having just watched John Cedars latest Youtube video I am appalled that JWs do not make up part of the investigation into institutions that have failed to protect children from sexual abuse.

  I have emailed and begged them to reevaluate their decision.

  If anyone else wants to do so, this is the email I used, I don't know if it's the right one, it's on their website.

  [email protected]
  
• 
  28

  JW Parents and kicking out their children

  by NJ501 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  is it a common practice for jw parents to kick their children out of the home, if the child doesn't want to be a jw.

  (even though their not disfellowshipped they will still get kicked out for not going to meetings etc.??).

  do other religions encourage kicking family members out this as well?

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Phoebe

  I've have heard of some that have been unceremoniously kicked out. I know I would have been if I had stayed living at home and not gone to the meetings.

  I saw a comment on Youtube where someone knew a sister who said 'if they aren't baptized by 16, their bags will be at the front door.'

  But generally speaking, most parents wouldn't kick their kids out.
• 
  35

  Question for those who went to the RC

  by joe134cd in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i'm just curious with all the happy clapping that is now going on with the singing at the conventions.

  what has been the reaction to it with the r&f.

  has anyone ever commented that it reminded them of a pentecostal revival meeting.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Phoebe

  @amicabl

  *vision of elder with swaying hips* is now in my mind!

  @eyeuse2badub

  They were, weren't they? Except 'Take Sides With Jehovah' Remember that rousing chorus? My dad used to belt it out.

  I quite like some of the new songs but they all do sound a bit Pentecostal. Not very reverent.

  I went to Rome a couple of years back and visited a small church my son and I came across. It was so quiet and peaceful in there and seemed more of a spiritual place that the kingdom halls. I remember feeling very guilty because I preferred it to the kingdom hall.
• 
  8

  BBC News has both an article and News Report on Rose questioning his victim. Charity commission investigating this case too.

  by Amelia Ashton in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08yw11v at 28 minutes.

  http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/07/26/jehovahs-witnesses-attacked-charity-commission-paedophilia-cover/ charity commission investigation report.

  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40719773?sthisfb written article on rose questioning his victim.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Phoebe

  I had a surprising reaction by my devout witness friend to the BBC news last night. Her and her husband were outraged at the news. They were so shocked. My friend said when she came home from work today, her husband said he'd been reading up about child abuse in the JWs and he was furious. He said how can we go knocking on doors while the organization is hiding perverts??

  I found this response encouraging because it shows it is getting through to some brothers and sisters.
• 
  39

  I need some help

  by Akid48 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  well let me start with my age is 13 and i have been thinking about this jw thing and i need help i just dont know if i want to be one any more.. the help i need is some one to send me some links to places i can research i just dont know if i want to study with a jw any more..

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Phoebe

  Hi Akid48,

  you sound a really smart kid. I wish I had been as smart as you at 13.

  Everyone on here will help you. Get a good education and above all, listen to what everyone has said and do not get pushed into baptism. No matter what they say, do not do it.
• 
  45

  UK Charity Commision reports on Moston, Manchester Congregation.

  by snugglebunny in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.gov.uk/government/news/investigation-leads-to-improvements-in-safeguarding-at-jehovahs-witnesses-charity.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Phoebe

  If I wasn't flying under the radar so to speak (trying to fade away quietly) I would share this all over my social media accounts. Well done BBC for such good coverage.

  These vile elders make me sick. This is now becoming such a common story and JWs are so utterly blind they will read this and think it's Satan attacking them.

  As a victim myself of sexual abuse by someone who became an elder, I am continually appalled by the extent to which elders will go to protect themselves and each other.

  Sorry. Rant over :)