Posts by longgone

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last convention before global attack on witnesses

by Phoebe in

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so it's not enough that i'm dealing with post traumatic stress/anxiety and panic attacks all related to my life as a jw (50 years baptized -- i stopped going a couple of months ago) at 3 a.m. i get an email from the other side of the world.

'you have to go to the convention.

bro sanderson says we must watch the news, things are happening.

longgone

Hugs to you Phoebe, you will heal from this! Many have as you see from the comments above.

I'm also on your journey, it's been a year last month. I'm still working to overcome the mind control. Especially the fear aspect of the FOG methods. I have no feelings or guilt or obligation, in fact the opposite. I'm relaxing and educating myself rather than wasting hours every week on that ridiculous "spiritual routine." You will too, it's great. But the fear, it's harder for me and it seems maybe that way for you too.

I really had a hard time with the Russian ban though, I actually got to thinking that it would happen here as well. What a stretch! Just because my name is still in the files in New York, I thought I'd be a target too. It went on for days, finally I talked with my daughter, a long time ex -jw. She reminded me of the very things this thread is about. We've been taught paranoia over things like this our entire life. For me even though I absolutely know the Watchtower is wrong, wrong wrong, it kicked in anyway. 😒

The programming runs deep through our minds. The set of lies that we've been taught is not only damaging intellectually but to our emotions as well. Including losing the mythical Paradise we hoped for. It's going to be alright, we'll get better little by little! Best wishes and love to you, pm me anytime if you like. We can share notes of our progress. 💙

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2017 Convention Video To Be Shown Regarding The 1975 Failure

by pale.emperor in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=go3arnnsfkk&feature=youtu.be.

no mention whatsoever that it was watchtower themselves that strongly hinted towards this date.

instead they blame those who "put their trust in a date, not jehovah".. let's recap... .

longgone

What low-down pathetic liars! There should be a picture of the Governing Body and the old Watchtower sign from Brooklyn next the definitions of lies and deception in every dictionary.

I looked some up and here's few things that fit them like a glove. They lie compulsively, they do so out of habit, it's their normal and reflexive way of answering questions. It's second nature and they're sociopathic manipulators too, with no conscience whatsoever.

Another group of JW's who will fall for this is the really young ones. Even the not so young, like those just a few years before me and I'm 58. They didn't live through it like so many of us. My younger siblings didn't understand it because they were not even teenagers yet. By the time they were, the emphasis on 1975 was over and done. They haven't read any of the excerpts posted above, they have no clue! They are going to soak up this video deception hook, line and sinker. I could write for an hour on this subject but I need to calm down. I'm going to go meditate for an hour. Such a sinister cult. 😣

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Alerts etc

by Xanthippe in

i wonder if it's possible for those of us who've been out decades to have alerts or alternatively see a grouping of threads in a folder or something similar if something actually happens of interest in the borg.. i'm not really interested in the day to day stuff about this cult but i would like to know if anything drastically changes as my siblings and their kids are still trapped.

i don't know anything about creating the code for forums so i don't know what is possible but if you don't ask you don't get.

this is not a criticism it's just time for me to move on and just drop in occasionally..

longgone

Speaking of changes in the terminology, I think the time period following the Great Tribulation has been changed at least three times over the years. This is how I remember it, corrections are welcome. Lol.

It started with *The New World.* As in "The New Word Translation of the Holy Scriptures."

Next it was changed to *The New Order* because they decided the literal planet won't be destroyed (just 99%of the people)so the first term wasn't accurate. The third was *The New System.* I don't know what they call it now, somewhere along the line I've lost track. 😕 I'm pretty sure they flip-flopped back and forth at some point on the last two.

To me it sounds like every single one of them, The New World, The New System, The New Order, are terms that would be used in a Cult. As in the Watchtower Cult. 😶

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Grandson Came, Cleaned, Cooked

by snowbird in

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pork chops, grits-broccoli-cheese casserole, celery & green onions smothered in turkey broth.. oh, frabjous day, calloo callay!.

or, something like that.. tee hee hee..

longgone

Sounds delicious, very nice Grandson You've got there!

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The new personality

by longgone in

i've been thinking about the changes we make within ourselves after leaving the wts cult.

i'm not referring to how we spend our time now that we actually have some, but who we have become, or working to be?.

the gb carries on and on about "stripping off the old personality and putting on the new one.

longgone

Hi everyone! I've been thinking about the changes we make within ourselves after leaving the WTS cult. I'm not referring to how we spend our time now that we actually have some, but who we have become, or working to be?

The GB carries on and on about "stripping off the old personality and putting on the new one." I personally think what they are really saying, is to become clones of their ideas of who they, the GB want us to be!

Even give up or even lose our own identity and in the case of some born-in like myself, sad to say we may not even fully formed our own. My question is for example, do you think are you more creative now, or have greater balance, losing that black and white thinking. Perhaps more adventurous, or decisive? Who are you becoming, now that you can decide for yourself?

Side note, I apologise for grammar errors, I'm working on becoming a grammar nerd myself. 😄

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Enjoyed a Movie with My Future Roommates

by Saethydd in

i went to see guardians of the galaxy 2 yesterday.

(great movie by the way, perfect mixture of action and comedy in my opinion.

) i told my family i would go by myself because they were all going to be at my sister's graduation.

longgone

I'm glad it went so well, good for you! 👌

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Birthday Party

by OnTheWayOut in

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i have posted less and less personal threads because less and less jw-related activity has happened in my life.

my jw mother called me on friday and asked me if i could do something on saturday.

i was sure my wife would ask me if anyone asked about her, and what i said.

longgone

A sad incident here. I remember some years ago a family with two little boys had a small party for all the little kids in the congregation. It was very sweet and the family gave gifts to all the children.

At the next meeting a sister carrying her little boy maybe only three years old, chuckled and told me that afterward he had said to her, " Nobody even got their head chopped off!"

It's a really sick religion that has preschoolers thinking things like that. Where would he get such a distorted idea? Hmm, that would be while sitting on his mother's lap, reading My Book of Bible Stories! Full color illustrations no less.

Very sad. This is why we throw out most of that crazy cult literature when we see it for what it is. 😔

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Which Watchtower publications did you keep?

by Schnufti in

i'm currently cleaning up our bookcase and need to decide what goes into the trash.

i'll keep the watchtower books that are not available online anymore (e.g.

the brown "reasoning" book).

longgone

None, zero, zip.

Followed by every item of clothing that I ever wore to the meeting.

Oh, correction. I saved one skirt and one dress, I had just bought. But, before long I couldn't take seeing them in my closet, they just reminded me of being at the KH, so they went out too. Good riddance!

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Received my first letter since leaving

by Yesu Kristo Bwana Wangu in

today, i received a paper letter in my mail.

since i left at the second half of 2016, i never received something like this.

it is a one and a half page hand written letter that is written by an elder pioneer (i guess he needed some easy way to get his time in).. it is not written in english, so i will translate it:.

longgone

My take on this is as above. He was totaling up his hours for the month or year and needed the time. This may explain why it was handwritten as well. That takes awhile.

A text would take next to no time as there would be no lengthy preaching.

A phone call? Well that easy, you may not answer, and if you did you may not listen to his lengthy speil. No time to speak of for his report. Sidenote - It was a waste of paper and is added to a landfill. 😒

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How much time and money did we waste traveling to meetings alone?

by longgone in

quick answer: way too much!.

this is something that really gets to me, all the way back to my childhood.

twenty minutes each way, three times a week.

longgone

Quick answer: Way too much!

This is something that really gets to me, all the way back to my childhood. Twenty minutes each way, three times a week. Month after month. Year after year. Wow. Plus the wear on the vehicle. That money could have gone toward food and clothes which we were already short of. 😒

Then for me as an adult it was cut back to about fifteen minutes, but that went on for decades! At even a nickel for every mile, it would still add up, though I'm not doing the math.

As for time wasted, you can't put a dollar figure on that. No wonder so many jws are broke. Sheesh!