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  JW's face certain death NOW.....

  by BoogerMan in

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  ...if they openly question/disagree with a current truth from the evil faithful slave - "truths" such as this one: .

  w83 10/1 p. 19 - "...a large number of the 1914 generation are still living today.

  of course, their numbers are steadily dwindling, and, therefore, sometime in the near future, we confidently can expect “the end” to come...".

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  FedUpJW

  I asked and elder once "If a new understanding is the truth and it replaced an old understanding that was the complete opposite, and if the opposite of truth is a lie then which of the two understandings is a lie?"
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  Retirement

  by jehovaxx in

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  the difference is now blatantly obvious, older ones who went against direction of the gb and planned for retirement have relatively more comfortable lives.. those who trusted and followed gb direction never got further education or training, pioneered or spent most of their lives knocking on doors for free, making just enough to get by in a part time job.. if you followed direction from the gb then you thought the end was just around the corner so no need to plan for retirement.. now these ones have indeed got old which they were given the impression they never would.

  they are a burden on others.

  the state has to pay for them in their old age.

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  FedUpJW

  My father was one of those who even though a servant and then elder for all his JW life used Proverbs 6: 6-8 as his guide. When someone would claim that it was the governing body who said to trust God to provide and Jesus said not to store up treasures on earth he would reply with Acts 5: 29 and say that he chose to obey God instead of men.

  As a result he saved, he invested wisely, and when he retired he and my mother lived a modest but comfortable life. He had enough so that if there were someone in genuine need he could privately offer some assistance, and not limited to just JW's

  I will give an example. A young child had died and his town's local newspaper had an article about how the parents were pretty well destitute due to medical bills for the child. The funeral home was refusing to take care of final arrangements without payment in advance, and the county was going to put the child in a potters field. My parents arranged to pay for her funeral, and all the medical costs on the condition they remain totally anonymous, even though the parents released the fact that some unknown person had done that kindness for them.
  
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  Nepotism and Simony

  by NotFormer in

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  i've read on here about connected families within congregations who seem to get all the "privileges".

  how likely is an elder's son, or other relative, to rise within the ranks?.

  i imagine it's harder to do it that way once you start to ascend the ranks.

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  Nepotism? Simony? Within the "perfect" congregation ruled entirely by "Holy Spirit"?

  My father said one time, "Anyone who says nepotism or money does not influence bodies of elders as to who is appointed is either very naive or outright lying!"

  When he said that he was an elder, he was according to rank and file JW's the only elder they trusted, and according to the other elder's he was feared and hated because he didn't rubber stamp everything and he went to bat for the average am ha'aretz. Whether in the congregation or his employment he had the reputation of being in the words of the president of the company he worked for "religiously ethical and honest."

  In the congregation I faded from I saw that the only ones appointed over the twenty years I was there were either family of elders, or had been "studied" with by elders.
  
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  Judicial Committees asking Details of Sex acts

  by blondie in

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  i remember knowing that jcs would ask very personal questions about sex activities.

  this article addresses this: https://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/15074595 .

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  FedUpJW

  Like the one about the guy on mike duty, who forgets to mute the mike when he goes to the toilet 🚽.

  That actually did happen. I was there visiting. I was not in that congregation, but it was Fargo, North Dakota (USA) in the early seventies. Don't remember the guys last name, but first name was George. He was a bit slow. Deceased many years ago as far as I know.
  
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  The "Problem" With Zoom

  by XBEHERE in

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  here is the org's problem with zoom, attending this way does not fit with their "scriptural definition" of a christian gathering.

  at least not anymore, one thing my pimi wife is fine with is attending on zoom occasionally, even 2-3 times a month or so.. if some of you recall, during covid there were break out rooms setup for people to stay on and associate.

  many would also stay in the main meeting and talk over each other trying to say hello, etc.

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  “You get a congregation privilege! And you get a congregation privilege! And you get a congregation privilege!!!”

  You can scrub the toilets! You can mop the floor! You can vacuum!
  
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  New meeting format

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

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  just watched november broadcast very different order to the leaked agm .

  be good if someone did a deep dive on the difference and why the changes?

  i didn’t time the items but it should be easy to see if edited?.

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  @LongHairGal

  Just over 11 years ago already. It was July 01, 2012 that I was loaded down with the final straw and decided NO MORE. I had worked hard, saved as much as I could, invested when I could, and had retired early seven years prior, in order to pursue building my own ag. related business. I guess they thought that for some reason having some savings and investments to live on made me rich.
  
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  New meeting format

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

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  just watched november broadcast very different order to the leaked agm .

  be good if someone did a deep dive on the difference and why the changes?

  i didn’t time the items but it should be easy to see if edited?.

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  FedUpJW

  Certain people will be privately approached by some elder with an envelope asking for money for some ‘needy’ person(s).

  I may have mentioned it on other threads, when I was still running the hamster wheel I was one of the ones always being tapped for money. When I finally became fed up I told one elder who came to me envelope in hand wanting some money for a couple to get to the convention I told him I noticed that they had both recently bought brand new I-phones and perhaps if they would have spent their money more wisely they would not be facing financial difficulty getting to the CONventnion. That was when pay-as-you-go phones could be had for less than $10.00 and plans could be had for less than $30.00 per month. I never gave a thing after that.
  
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  Where is everyone? 😆

  by MissDaSilva in

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  i had a day off today and needed to get some errands done in my local town.

  2 carts have allocated here but i never ever see anyone out, even on very nice days.

  70% of the congregation don’t work.

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  FedUpJW

  Passive quiet resistance. Yes. Sometimes the most powerful.

  
  Reminds me of the saying, "Sometimes the loudest argument is complete silence."
  
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  How Do Jehovah's Witnesses View Education?

  by southyukon in

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  i have a question about this article.. https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/jw-education-school/.

  higher education can lead to moral and spiritual dangers.

  a bible proverb says: "the shrewd one sees the danger and conceals himself.

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  FedUpJW

  This quote from another source says exactly what my belief is as to the JW view of education.

  People with higher intelligence tend to be harder to control for various reasons. First off, they are able to think for themselves and cannot be as easily controlled through rhetoric, propaganda, emotional manipulations and intimidation. Stupid people are easily manipulated and will go along with anybody who has an easy answer for them or easily digestible rhetoric to follow.

  I always seemed to have thought that most JW's were a bit mentally challenged and nothing has changed my opinion.
  

  One time my father and I were conversing about some of the things that we saw in the JW's that seemed "off". I mentioned that I had been told by an elder, "You THINK to much!" My father replied, "No, they don't think ENOUGH!"
  
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  Quick builds

  by moley in

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  what was the standard of quick builds.

  did they cut corners, ignore building regulations, were they unsafe .

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  Thereafter, we had safety meetings and safety crews onsite throughout the completion of the building.

  I remember being subjected to those. The last one I was at was nearly 15 years ago and the head RBC guy was yapping along about how everyone MUST wear a hardhat at all times while inside the building as it was a construction zone. Then he read off some scripture about the sanctity of life, and how wearing the hardhat showed "we" respected life and loved Jehovah. All the while he had his hardhat under his arm! At that point I took mine off, threw it on the floor and said, "If YOU don't have to wear yours, I don't have to wear mine!" And then I walked off the job.