Posts by FedUpJW

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NWT - revised 1984 vs revised 2013 versions

by Tallon in

in the latest 2013 revision the footnote of john chapter 8 states; a number of ancient and authoritative manuscripts omit vs 53 (of chapter 7) to chapter 8, vs. 11.. yet the 1984 revision quotes a similar footnote, however the passage of scripture is included in the text, albeit separately at the bottom.

this passage of scripture is about the scribes and the pharisees who brought a woman that was accused of adultery before jesus to test him on the punishment to be meted out.

then came his famous reply; let the one of you that is sinless be the first to throw a stone at her.. i just found it interesting that the wtbts would leave this out in the latest revision.

FedUpJW

I’m wondering what else has been altered / left out from the previous revision(s).

I noted that in Matthew 24: 35 where Jesus stated, "Truly I say to you that this generation will by no means pass away until all these things happen." the cross-reference to Exodus 20: 5 in the 1984 edition which states, "...bringing punishment for the error of fathers upon sons, upon the third generation and upon the fourth generation..." was deleted. Can't have the Bible contradicting the governing body's nu-lite explanation of what a generation really is, now can they?

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I am looking at back surgery any thoughts on should I or not?

by Still Totally ADD in

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back in march i fell and injured my back at work.

my back has been a problem for many years but certain exercise has able me to function normally through the years.

now i walk bent over with a cane and cannot walk very far, stand, or sit in a straight back chair.

FedUpJW

IF surgery is the answer of last resort the right surgeon is the key. Ask questions. It doesn't hurt to ask for references. And having been there, done that...use a neurosurgeon, not an orthopedic surgeon. The skill set needed for working on the spine necessitates someone with a higher skill set than an orthopedic surgeon.

Just my two cents having gone thorough this type of surgery with great success.

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Comparing Total Numbers Baptized During the 1990s and the Last Ten Years:

by steve2 in

sometimes, comparing raw numbers provides a more clear-cut numerical picture of growth or otherwise than percentages.

below are the numbers for peak publishers (rounded off so that 4,1 represents more than 4,100,000) for each year throughout the 1990s and those for the last ten years.. year: peak* baptisms.

* peak publishers abbreviated - simply to show annual baptisms in relation to peak publishers.. the main point: .

FedUpJW

Unless something fundamentally radical happens.....

For just a moment I am going to put on the ol' JDub hat and say that something fundamentally radical is going to happen...soon...the Big A! The proof is that the preaching work and the in gathering of those in line for a life of petting pandas is obviously drawing to a close.

Okay, now that I have parroted the JDub line that I think I will go be sick...

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June 28, 2017 TO ALL BODIES OF ELDERS Re: Important Reminder—Volunteers

by wifibandit in

june 28, 2017 to all bodies of elders re: important reminder—volunteers.

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FedUpJW

Can't you just feel the love???

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What does it take to qualify for cart/trolley work?

by Londo111 in

if memory serves me, when it was first introduced elders had to fill out a form to grade a jw, and only those who made the grade could do the carts.. i didn’t realize until sir82 said something on another discussion that the process had changed.. what is the process nowadays?

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FedUpJW

"Should be willing to cooperate with the body of elders"

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Weekly Scripture Twist - aka the Watchtower Study

by doubtfull1799 in

“more than material assistance, refugees need spiritual and emotional support.

(matt.

4:4) elders can help by obtaining literature in the language of the refugees and by helping them contact brothers who speak their language.

FedUpJW

So refugees who have lost everything should not try to replace these things?

Lord, no! How can we expect them to keep a simple eye if they are replacing "things"? Birds of the heavens, put kingdom "interests" first and all that other clap-trap? Throw a WT at them as you scoot on by, gawd will take care of them.

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Tacoma Dome Conventions

by Lynnie in

so i went to visit my jw aging mother this week (i've been df'd for 40 years) and she told me she needs to give the people who are taking her to the convention $10 each day of the convention to cover gas?

my uber elder cousin told her she needs to do this!!!

wtf?

FedUpJW

Many years ago an elderly, disabled sister needed finances to get to the scheduled convention.

My dad and one other elder furnished the money. The rest of the elder body had multiple excuses why they couldn't afford anything to help her. That included the one who came tooling into the KH parking lot two weeks before the convention with a BRAND NEW luxury vehicle!

My dad is now treated like he is DF'd because he is old, infirm, and no longer a useful tool, and the other brother got so fed up with life he ate a bullet.

Loving bunch of hypocrites!!

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I've Just Noticed Something About The "Remember The Wife Of Lot" Video

by pale.emperor in

maybe you guys got on to this right away, but i've just noticed something about the remember the wife of lot video.. we all know the scene where the judgmental jw dad gives that disapproving look to the girl who has lesbian parents:.

this look actually appears again throughout the video - but on other jws.

in the scene where the new brother is out in service with the former co. look at the new brothers reaction to when a "worldly" person knows the former co from work:.

FedUpJW

Or walking through a busy street filled with nightclubs at night - oh no!

Yep...had to explain that one myself. Parked in front of the local live music nightclub when I was sitting in with the band and the local JW snoop/gossip complained about seeing my vehicle there. Told that I should park a couple city blocks away. Asked what would happen IF I did and my vehicle was seen and it was in front of some single woman's home that late at night?

IDIOTS!!

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Bible pssssges that are immoral - Lot offering his virgin daughters to be gang raped by homosexual males

by jambon1 in

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friends

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tell me me more about your just & loving god..

FedUpJW

I once proudly proclaimed to a field serve us group that I was reading a real good book. It had the stories that Hollywood movies are made of. I said it had stories of women seducing men and stabbing them in their sleep, rape, incest, adultery, murder, child sacrifice, humans being thrown into fires to be burned alive, etc. The entire group was horrified. The next meeting I was asked to "visit" with a couple elders in the back room. They informed me that they had been told of my literary interest. Was it true I was reading about those unscriptural subjects? Yes. Then I dropped the bomb. It's the Bible! I love messing with their feeble minds!

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Some prayers really annoy me

by stillin in

i realize that prayer is a really personal thing, but representing a group in prayer has become so full of cliche's that i just want to vomit sometimes.

co week almost every prayer has the phrase "special week of activity" in it.. then there's "please look after the sick and afflicted.".

not so much anymore, "please bless this food and the hands that prepared it.".

FedUpJW

"Please guide us and direct us as we make our way home from the meeting"

Actually this is a very logical request...at least for the level of intelligence most of the JDubs in my area display. They need all the help they can get making their way home from anywhere.