Posts by FedUpJW

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Protect Your Family??

by Tech49 in

here is an article in the current study copy of the wt.

tell me your thoughts and i will tell you mine.!

this is a topic that i am very sensitive about, as i could never see not protecting my family, even if that meant using whatever means at hand to do so!

FedUpJW

*** g 6/08 p. 11 When Is Self-Defense Justified? ***
On the other hand, what if a person’s life is threatened by an assailant? A law that God gave to ancient Israel sheds light on this. If a thief was caught in the daytime and was killed, the assailant would be charged with murder. This was evidently because thievery did not carry the death penalty and the thief could have been identified and brought to justice. However, if an intruder was fatally struck at night, the householder could be exonerated because it would be difficult for him to see what the intruder was doing and to ascertain the intentions of the intruder. The householder could reasonably conclude that his family was under threat of harm and take defensive action.—Exodus 22:2, 3.
The Bible thus indicates that a person may defend himself or his family if physically assaulted. He may ward off blows, restrain the attacker, or even strike a blow to stun or incapacitate him. The intention would be to neutralize the aggression or stop the attack. This being the case, if the aggressor was seriously harmed or killed in such a situation, his death would be accidental and not deliberate.

So was this article BS? Or was this new QFR BS? Oh I KNOW...I KNOW...PICK ME. It's ALL BS!

I legally carry a firearm, and will not hesitate to use it to protect myself or family against any vicious animal, even IF that animal walks on two legs!

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Protect Your Family??

by Tech49 in

here is an article in the current study copy of the wt.

tell me your thoughts and i will tell you mine.!

this is a topic that i am very sensitive about, as i could never see not protecting my family, even if that meant using whatever means at hand to do so!

FedUpJW

....weapons are best kept unloaded, perhaps even disassembled, and safely locked away.

A huge WTF statement. An unloaded, taken down, locked up firearm is....a paperweight! Another flip-flop by WT. While they always have been pretty well against firearms, with no genuinely logical reason, they continually flip-flop on whether or not someone is "permitted' to defend themselves or their family. I guess when you live in a multi-million dollar secured compound it is easy to spout the BS that this answer contains.

I'd face God on judgement day with my head held high and eyes straight ahead if I were to have to use violent means including the use of a firearm to protect myself or family! Better to ask forgiveness than permission. And better to be judged by twelve than carried by six! When seconds count, the police are only minutes away!

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Oh The Irony

by FedUpJW in

so i sat and suffered through the clam tonight.. everything was pretty much as dull, repetitious, and simple-minded as i have come to expect, but i was really struck by the mind-numbing idiotic comments made during the part about shunning family.. then came the book study (no real bible use) loaded with self-congratulatory b.s about how wt never has, and never will beg, solicit, or ask for money.

i could feel myself beginning to channel the old tasmanian devil cartoon character as i listened to that garbage while remembering the jdubya tv shows about how more money was going out than coming in and give more.

but finally came the most ironic (to me) part of the entire meeting and i could not help bursting out in a loud belly laugh that got me many dirty looks and heavy frowns.

FedUpJW

So I sat and suffered through the CLAM tonight.

Everything was pretty much as dull, repetitious, and simple-minded as I have come to expect, but I was really struck by the mind-numbing idiotic comments made during the part about shunning family.

Then came the BOOK study (no real Bible use) loaded with self-congratulatory B.S about how WT never has, and never will beg, solicit, or ask for money. I could feel myself beginning to channel the old Tasmanian Devil cartoon character as I listened to that garbage while remembering the JDubya TV shows about how more money was going out than coming in and GIVE MORE. But finally came the most ironic (to me) part of the entire meeting and I could not help bursting out in a loud belly laugh that got me many dirty looks and heavy frowns. They read a letter from the GB asking for $14.00 per member (suggested) and passed a "resolution" to pay that amount. I of course made it obvious that my arms were firmly folded across my chest so there would be no mistake what my feelings were.

Afterwards I asked someone who is still talking to me if they thought anyone else would get the irony of 30 minutes spent saying JW's do not ask for money followed by them asking for more money. I saw a light go off in their eyes. Maybe....just maybe?

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2018 Annual Meeting

by EyesOpenHeartBroken in

does anybody have any word on the 2018 annual meeting?

i assume something new will be rolled out, since they are having all the congregations do special weekend streaming.. my guess is that there will be some major "new light" concerning the memorial, partaking, anointed, etc.

i would guess that they will say all baptized believers should partake.

FedUpJW

I assume something new will be rolled out, since they are having all the congregations do special weekend streaming.

Not real sure about anything "new", but the GB want to make sure as many Dubs as possible can hear their self-glorification and praise of the new Warwick compound. And not to be forgotten, is that with the extreme pressure everyone is putting on themselves and others in the congregations to "come watch the dedication of Warwick, and the Annual Meeting" as if ones very life depended on this OPTIONAL meeting , there will be literally millions of people to hear the continued solicitation to give MORE MONEY.

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Special Talks now via video

by AverageJoe1 in

tired of listening to your local elders giving the "special" talk ever year after the memorial?

well don't worry, as of next year we will be spicing things up for your enjoyment.. not only will we be having the talk before the memorial (i know, wild huh), but we will be treating you to the talk via video starring our famous speakers from bethel so you can see how a talk should be given (after all bethel does boast the best speakers in any country, right?!).

here's a copy of the text from our latest letter as i'm sure that with so much excitement you won't believe it at first!.

FedUpJW

Do you think at one time they will eliminate all speakers and the meeting will consist of just watching videos from the gb?

I've been saying that for a couple years now, in the congregation where I still attend for family reasons.

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Saying hello for first time

by pimojw in

i have been sneakily looking at this forum, almost every day, ever since it began!

it has taken me till now to actually register and contribute.

(actually i did register with a different name in the beginning but never commented).. i am a pimo elder with a fairly long history of senior "positions" in the organization.

FedUpJW

...but not a lot of will to deal with it.

EXACTLY! As a very long term elder said when he was deleted (allegedly for being too old), "Elders are great about knowing WHAT to do and making decisions about WHAT to do, but no good at actually DOING anything!" His biggest "sin" was being a "doer", and being genuinely loving and kind. Can't have that s--t on the "body" showing up the rest as Pharisees.

So if you can DO something positive with what you know you are a cut above the rest of the "body".

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Do any of the current Governing Body have academic qualifications?

by usualusername1 in

jw
friends

do any of the current governing body have academic qualifications?.

thanks.

paul.

FedUpJW

It's OK to be a high school dropout if you do it for God.

I heard that! Back in the early seventies nearly every high school kid I new did just that. They quit school "to pioneer before the end in 75."

Of course now forty-two years later they have no education of value, have no decent paying employment, have no savings, and have only managed to pioneer for a couple years until they moved out of mommies basement. Now they fave the reality of life with basically nothing except the good-will of others who did not buy into the fake promises.

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The Golden rule (Matt 7:12) - Do JW's apply it?

by doubtfull1799 in

there is no doubt (in my mind at least from my own personal experience) that in day to day matters most witnesses are genuinely loving and kind (or "nice") people (though their indoctrination and fundamentalist mentality often inhibits their natural kindness and tolerance and often gets in the way of fulling showing it).

however i would like to put the case that when it comes to their ministry and theological/scientific discussion of any type, they fail to apply even the most basic of bible principles that they claim to espouse - the golden rule!

here is what occurred to me.... some things jw's would like men to do to them:.

FedUpJW

Do JDubs apply the Golden Rule?

Not in my personal experience, as it is written. However, I have seen where Dubs that have much "gold" do seem to rise to levels of "ruler-ship".

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"The purpose of reporting field service time is for encouragement"

by HereIgo in

i was told this when i was an aspiring jw, aka unbaptized publisher.

the above explanation didn't make sense to me then and it never did make sense throughout my jw career.

over time, it appeared to me the real purpose of field service time reporting was to gauge one's spirituality and for the ceo *cough* co to make sure the elders were on top of things during his visit..

FedUpJW

Somewhat off topic of reporting time, but I heard the same argument at the recent assembly day about speaker inroductions.

The circuit overseer went on about how some feel that it should not be included in speaker introductions what their position in the congregation is and how long they have been pioneers. He continued that that information is included as "encouragement to others that they can to do more".

Funny that the one speaker is introduced as Bro. So-And-So, who serves as the COBE from -----,---- congregation, and in the full time service for two years. Those two years were in the early sixties, and he has never in the fifteen years I have known him went door to door. Only RV's, and counts them all as door step Bible studies.

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Laziness of JW parents?

by stuckinarut2 in

it seems that many witness parents are simply taking the lazy option when it comes to raising their children.. by this i mean, they will happily outsource the education of their kids to the ready-made information on jwdotorg.. need to keep the toddler busy?

just stick him in front of a colourful caleb and sophia cartoon.

or lets play coloring-in on ready made pictures of bible characters getting killed.. need to manipulate the mind of your growing child?

FedUpJW

...how many current JWs know what a concordance...[is]

I know...I know...I know!!! It's that thing you play polka music on!