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  Are JWs capable of a genuine discussion?

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  i was just pondering whether jws are capable of having a calm, in depth discussion about religious or faith topics?.

  i have just finished listening to a great podcast by "dogma debate" (dan) episode 333. this fantastic, in-depth conversation between a theist and an atheist was a masterful example of how a dignified conversation can take place without it resorting to abruptness or even nastiness.. jws on the other hand seem incapable of having such discussion without ending up in the following ways:.

  1)they get dogmatic and defensive if a differing view is presented.. 2)if the conversation doesn't go their way, they cut it short saying something like "well, we had better agree to disagree" or the like.. so why the arrogance?

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  Are JWs are capable of having a calm, in depth discussion about religious or faith topics?

  HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
  
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  Couple of real gems in the WT study for this upcoming weekend

  by sir82 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  since blondie seems to still be on sabbatical, i'll take the liberty of highlighting a couple of "gems" from this week's upcoming study, from the article "reject worldly thinking".. from paragraph 12:.

  is it true that succeeding in a secular career that offers power and prestige leads to lasting happiness?

  remember that the craving to control others and the longing to be admired are the desires that enticed satan, but he is angry, not happy.. .

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  Is it true that succeeding in a secular career that offers power and prestige leads to lasting happiness? No.

  Playing devils advocate a bit here...when I read that question with my "weasel word" filter on and engaging "pretzel logic" they are correct. First one needs to focus less on the word career, and more on offers. By using the word offers the implication is that one has succeeded in a career strictly and only because it offered power and prestige, with those two things being the persons sole motivating reasons for their career choice.

  By linking their choice of words in the manner they did it promotes the idea that ANY success, in ANY career choice is solely for selfish, power hungry look at me reasons. And power and prestige do not automatically translate into happiness.

  Think of the difference there would have been in the answer had the WTB&T$ been intellectually honest in how they wrote the question. "Is it true that succeeding in a secular career that offers personal satisfaction for a job well done and is something you truly enjoy working at leads to happiness? The answer would likely be a resounding YES!
  
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  Loyalty.....the new buzzword promoted by the watchtower Bible and tract society

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  loyalty appears to be the buzzword constantly promoted by the gb at the moment.

  we hear it at conventions, assemblies, and meetings.. let's face it loyalty covers so much.

  shunning of family, friends etc.

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  Also in Micah 6:8, 'asking' was changed to 'requiring'. What was once a beautiful scripture is now harsh and demanding!

  And "kindness" was dropped altogether and replaced with their buzzword "loyalty". Nothing kind about JW taskmasters anymore.

  I have taken to using an (un)intentional slip of the tongue when I say anything these days to any JDub about the "Mid-Week Beating." Funny thing, no one seems to even notice.
  
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  Tony "Tightpants" Morris Talks Of Tight Pants AGAIN!!

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  again with the pants... tony, if you can't stop looking at young men in tight pants don't take it out on the rest of us.

  https://www.facebook.com/john.cedars.5/posts/868329653345317.

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  So he clearly aware of what sites such as this are saying about the borg. Good. I hope he does a world tour, telling the rank and file, noooo, we are not a cult.
  

  Me thinks he doth protest too much!
  
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  The hypocrisy of today's Watchtower

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i don't really need to explain anything really.

  all i can say is that i was gob smacked at the sheer audaciousness of the entire study article.

  i'm still speechless.

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  As Christians, however, we must humbly “consider others superior” to us

  Yeah, THAT is really something the gibbering boobies in Warwick do...isn't it?
  
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  Consolidation of Bethel Big-Wigs Now?

  by The Fall Guy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a reliable source has informed me that a bethel contact has informed them that paul gillies - a london branch committee heavyweight - is moving to warwick to join the legal department there.

  anyone else aware of this?.

  during the recent court case in russia, he posed for a photograph with the gb member and the rest of the wt a-team..

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  Somebody told me, that someone told them, that....
  
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  Why the meetings are boring and uninspiring

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  each individual may have their own views as to why they feel the meetings are boring and uninspiring.

  in my case i find the midweek meeting so, because of the constant emphasis on pitching watchtower literature.

  its just monotonous and one big yawn.. i watch other christian faiths where they open up a chapter of the bible and discuss it's contents.

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  Listen and obey the GB (virtually always described as the F&DS)

  I am getting a lot of push-back, from the elders in particular, for referring to those seven guys in New York as the governing body instead of "The Slave". They say it is disrespectful and elevates men making it sound like we follow men. WTF!! What was it those same seven had printed in a WT? "Who really is the 'faithful and discreet slave'?, IT'S US!!! Now shut up, sit down, and do what we order you to do! Especially GIVE US MONEY!"
  
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  no...No...NOOO...JW's are not a cult!

  by FedUpJW in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just read this over on jw talk:.

  will we be willing to leave unbelieving mates and unresponsive kids behind when given direction on what to do???

  what about grandkids who fall under their parents who are not witnesses???

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  Yet if you try to post facts or personal experiences which cast WT in the slightest shadow, those that police JWTalk refuse to allow that post to be shown.

  Not to mention that if one of the more subtle comments make it through the vetting process and then it receives complaints, and if that happens more than once or twice you will be promptly "disfellowshipped" from the forum and banned.
  
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  Do you have JW-related dreams (nightmares)?

  by compound complex in

  1. social
  2. humour

  greetings, dreamers:.

  i guess it's never going away: daytime carryovers of jw-related stuff seeping into my dreams.. the majority of these dreams take place at conventions but with really weird trappings.

  last night i dreamed i arrived at the site with no books, no lunch, nothing but my car keys.

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  Yes. I have them too.

  The majority of these dreams take place at conventions but with really weird trappings.

  I described one of them to another JDub who I still get along with. They asked me if I was watching internet porn, because the demunz come through the internet porn and then influence your dreams.
  
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  no...No...NOOO...JW's are not a cult!

  by FedUpJW in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just read this over on jw talk:.

  will we be willing to leave unbelieving mates and unresponsive kids behind when given direction on what to do???

  what about grandkids who fall under their parents who are not witnesses???

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  And this...:

  They attack, maybe start by rounding up those of us they can find. Angels gather anointed and everything is in place for when they go for the kill.

  Can you feel the love?