Posts by FedUpJW

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The strange case of Gerrit Losch

by Gorbatchov in

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one of the recent molest cases had a signed declaration of gerrit losch, stating he has no relation with watchtower and that he has no control over watchtower and he does not answer to watchtower.. this month he is hosting the watchtower broadcasting show, on a watchtower media chanel, with a watchtower president starring as co-host, with statements, media and music that have intellectual ownership and copyright by watchtower.. gerrit is asking on broadcasting for respect for “the slave”, just like jehova and jesus respect “the slave” and will even reward them.. are the writers of the statement too stupid to see the correlation between teaching and practicing?.

these man are proven liars.. how can hold this firewall stand?

it’s so thin.. a judge can see this mismach isn’t it??.

FedUpJW

‘I do not answer to Watchtower. […] Watchtower does not have, and has never had, any authority over me.’

He speaks the truth according to his view. He does not answer to WT...WT answers to HIM.

And WT has no authority over him...HE has authority over WT.

It's all in the way the question is asked as to how it will be answered. Just like Jackson's answer during questioning by the ARC. He said it would APPEAR to be presumptuous to claim to be the only channel for God...not that it WAS presumptuous.

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suicide

by zeb in

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who among us has known a jw who has committed suicide.

i believe this as a separate subject has not been covered..

FedUpJW

Three. One a kind hearted pioneer woman, wife of a big shot POS elder who constantly criticized her in public, after he publicly scolded her for not saying enough good things about him on a circuit assembly interview. A second one, an elder who tried his level best to treat those in the congregation as a CHRISTIAN first and follow the Pharisaical JW hard-line second. The third, a somewhat shy, gullible teen-age daughter of a single JW mother the night she got DF'd for fornicating with the P.O's thirty something year old son who only got reproof.

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Belly button

by moley in

just a thought.

would those who are resurrected (if it existed) to the new system have bellybuttons.

FedUpJW

The bigger issue is whether they would be "innies" or "outies".

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March 2018 Broadcast - When quotes become rumors

by Listener in

this months broadcast is presented by losche and he discusses the need for trust in the fds.

the following is transcribed from the 12.30 mark.. satan also has the scheme to spread rumors about our brothers including the faithful slave.

the method of spreading rumors is not new.

FedUpJW

Jehovah, Jesus and the Faithful Slave. To a reasonable degree you also trust all of your fellow Brothers and Sisters...something else we need to trust in – God’s Word...

There we have it. They have placed The Bible in LAST place!

This is the man who “does not answer to Watchtower” and is “not related to Watchtower”. ”Watchtower does not have control” over him. This is no rumor, it’s well documented evidence and signed by himself. A liar and a fraud.

He is, in his mind, telling the truth. HE does not answer to WT. HE is not related to WT. WT does not have control over HIM. WT answers to HIM! WT is related to HIM! HE has control over WT! After all when Jesus is supposed to turn over everything and subject himself to God the GB will be elevated to a position OVER even Jesus! "... they will rule, not only for a thousand years but for ever and ever."

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This probably sounds uppity. I'm saying it anyhow

by stillin in

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has anybody else noticed a pattern that is here among us outcasts?

there seems to be, on average, a higher level of intelligence here than there is at the kingdom hall.

actually, intelligent conversation seems to be looked down upon among the witnesses.. also, the simple language skills found here seem to be above average compared to those among the witnesses.

FedUpJW

As a teen, I was told, 'you think too deeply.'

In my seventh decade of life I am getting told very regularly that, You think too much!" I mentioned it to a non-believing friend who told me I should just give the other person a hard stare and tell them they don't think enough!

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Funny News From My Old Congragation - Elder Fight!

by pale.emperor in

i haven't stopped laughing since i heard this.

a pimo in my last congregation told me that an elder has been removed from his elder position.

apparently he grabbed another elder by the throat, put him up against a wall in the back room and punched him in on the nose... during an elders meeting on thursday evening after the meeting.. the congregation were running round like headless chickens wondering what to do?

FedUpJW

Sounds like the eldurr that made the statement during his PT (Are You Building With Fire Resistant Materials) that Proverbs 22: 6 meant that if youngsters grew up and left Da Troof it was because the parents failed.

I asked him after the meeting if he REALLY meant that the parents were to blame for their children leaving Da Troof? He very forcefully said that is what the Bible says! So I asked him to explain who was to blame and failures for Satan leaving, Adam and Eve leaving, and Judas Iscariot leaving.

It took two other brothers to restrain him, and one to restrain me if I had to defend myself! What a moron he is! I pity the southwest United states congregation he is ruling in now!

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Why did you leave?

by Fred Franztone in

we all have many reasons for leaving, most are doctrinal, some are emotional.

it's a religion which obsesses over factual proofs (counterfactual though they are) of its veracity rather than faith, so it's inevitable that most who leave will do so for intellectual reasons.

which doctrine above all others forced you to reconsider your position?

FedUpJW

The glaring hypocrisy of the way these two scriptures were ignored by the "oh-so-humble" jack-wads in the congregations.

(John 15:12-14) . . . This is my commandment, that you love one another just as I have loved you. Absolutely no genuine, non-conditional love shown by anyone in the cult!

(Matthew 7:3) . . . Why, then, do you look at the straw in your brother’s eye, but do not consider the rafter in your own eye? Always willing to engage in malicious gossip, tearing other's down behind their back but putting on a pretense of "love" to your face. Digging up things one did decades earlier as the excuse to continue punishing you, because of alleged "stumbling".

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Who Says JW's Are Not A Judgemental Cult

by FedUpJW in

checked out another thread on the jw talk cult site and found this new discussion under the heading makes it awkward...i think: .

hi brothers, hope we are all basking in jehovah's undeserved kindness.

well, anytime im having a bible study in the ministry and we get to d study 6 in the brochure; listen to god and live forever which has d topic : what do we learn from the great flood?

FedUpJW

Checked out another thread on the JW talk cult site and found this new discussion under the heading Makes it Awkward...I think:

Hi brothers, hope we are all basking in Jehovah's undeserved kindness.

Well, anytime im having a Bible study in the ministry and we get to d study 6 in the brochure; Listen to God and Live Forever which has d topic : What Do we Learn from the Great Flood?

The last part in the study reads: "Some people are like Noah. They listen to God and do what He says; they are Jehovah's Witnesses."

I know we have the truth, but sometimes i feel when we openly rub it into their faces like that, it can make them angry and they might think we are judging them.

And one of the first replies was this little bit of goofiness, "Sooner or later, you have to tell them the truth. If they want to get on the road to life, they will have to join us."

Nope, JDub's don't judge people, or condemn them do they? No wonder we use the term jw.BORG

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Masturbation is not sinful, unclean, or wicked [Rebuttal to leaked Bethel video regarding masturbation]

by Mace.Bean in

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[the following information is intended as a response to the leaked bethel video regarding masturbation.

if you are not aware of that video, please check it our before attempting to comment.].

masturbation is not sinful, unclean, or wicked.

FedUpJW

I equate masturbation with blowing my nose. It has to be done. It isn't a public affair nor anybody's business but my own.

I was told by a super-eldurr that proof of masturbation being a sin was that it was done in private. I asked him when was the last time he took a shit in public view of others.

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Unhappy being asked to give a Disfellowshipped Sister a ride to and from Meetings

by Isambard Crater in

i'm pimo, very much against disfellowshipping, and going to a meeting leaves me feeling confused and angry at the best of times.

except an elder asked me on thursday night if i can start giving a ride to a disfellowshipped woman because she lives near me and nobody else from the hall lives in my village.

it seems the elder and his family who have been giving this woman a ride for the past six months can no longer stomach the time it takes them to go out of their way.. i thought all normal publishers weren't to have any contact with disfellowshipped people?

FedUpJW

It seems the elder and his family who have been giving this woman a ride for the past six months can no longer stomach the time it takes them to go out of their way.

It is all about the $$$$ and the time with them. They would be falling over themselves to give her a ride IF they could get a boatload of praise from others for it.

I went through this with an eldurr in my locality who always tried to guilt me into giving rides to his bible indoctrination victims, dis-fellowshipped people, and the loons who no one else could tolerate. Then I finally got FedUp and told him "NO"! Now I am a persona non grata in his book, and I am just fine with that.