it is a very long time since i was an elder and the elders textbooks have changed multiple times since then.
going back to when i was an elder, to the best of my knowledge the only way a spouse could divorce from his/her partner was porneia, if that person had sexual relations with a man, woman, child, or beast.
but it had to be proven and that's the dubious 2 witness rule.. in fact, if it was not proven and the innocent party divorced and married someone else, then they could be hauled up in front of a judicial committee and be charged with committing adultery and disfellowshipped!
Seems like "brazen conduct" is a made up, unbiblical disfellowshipping offense that can be a catch-all term when elders don't have two witnesses or a confession.
As my now deceased father used to say, "ANYONE can be disfellowshipped for ANYTHING that three elders can agree on."
In the governing bodies deluded minds sex only happens at night and if you spend the entire night at someone’s house.
And only between a man and woman. Not a word about two women, or two men!
it is a very long time since i was an elder and the elders textbooks have changed multiple times since then.
going back to when i was an elder, to the best of my knowledge the only way a spouse could divorce from his/her partner was porneia, if that person had sexual relations with a man, woman, child, or beast.
but it had to be proven and that's the dubious 2 witness rule.. in fact, if it was not proven and the innocent party divorced and married someone else, then they could be hauled up in front of a judicial committee and be charged with committing adultery and disfellowshipped!
If it was not proven and the innocent party divorced and married someone else, then they could be hauled up in front of a judicial committee and be charged with committing adultery and disfellowshipped!
Even more idiotic was the rule that a friend of mine was subjected to some years ago. His non-JW wife left him and filed for divorce. He was pretty well devastated. Before the divorce was finalized she realized she was better off with him than not and asked to reconcile. He agreed. The elders got wind of it and hauled him in the back room and told him that he MUST let the divorce proceed. They used Ezra 10:10-12 to prove their point . . .Then Ezʹra the priest rose and said to them: “You have acted unfaithfully by marrying foreign women, and so you have added to the guilt of Israel. 11 Now make confession to Jehovah the God of your forefathers and do his will. Separate yourselves from the peoples of the land and from these foreign wives.” 12 To this the whole congregation answered with a loud voice: “It is our duty to do exactly as you say." When he questioned their instructions they used Ezra 10:8 . . .and according to the decision of the princes and the elders, anyone who did not come within three days’ time would have all his goods confiscated, and he would be banished from the congregation."
No room for any kind of kindness or forgiveness there! A helluva lot of cherry-picking from the Bible. And now twenty years later he still carries a torch for her, and she is still single. One just has to appreciate how much the JW's cherish family! NOT!
did you ever refuse to go in service with someone?
i did.... i went to the kh to meet for service and 3 brothers were there.
i told the brother taking the lead, that when he made up the car groups to take note i had a plan of my own -the 3 brothers could go together and i would do my own thing.
I told the brother taking the lead that I had a plan of my own and I would do my own thing.
That is exactly what I did for the last several months of field circus before I just up and obviously quit. And Every. Single. Time. he would try to shoe-horn me into a group and then try to shame me into "following directions" when I refused. It's nice to be off that useless tread-mill!
from the houston chronicle.
isn't it wonderful how jws don't judge anyone and love everyone?.
jehovah’s witnesses have restarted their door-to-door ministry after more than two and a half years on hiatus due to the coronavirus pandemic, reviving a religious practice that the faith considers crucial and cherished.. from coast to coast, members of the christian denomination fanned out in cities and towns thursday to share literature and converse about god for the first time since march 2020.. in the jamaica plain neighborhood on the south side of boston, dan and carrie sideris spent a balmy morning walking around knocking on doors and ringing bells.
The organization is not mandating masks or social distancing, leaving those decisions to each individual.
From personal conversations and observations of local JW's I can say that without any doubt that statement is a veiled lie. Perhaps they do not SAY they are mandated, but they will sure act like they are, and chastise anyone who does not fall in line with the unspoken rules. Just as they did with the COVID jabs.
for elders.
announcements and reminders.
september 2022.
TRANSLATION
FOR ELDERS: 3. Locating Approved Ass-kissers for Theocratic Audio/Video Propaganda.
FOR COORDINATORS OF THE BODIES OF ELDERS: 3.
Promoting Literacy: Please arrange for the body of elders to discuss
the topic of promoting literacy at the next elders’ meeting. Copies of Awake! written at a third grade level can be used.
i am posting a link as to being legally bound to jw rules at time of baptism.
i only did a quick skim, but what i gathered is interesting, and what it says about 1985 may be of use to some hoping to just fade and not be bothered.
in 1985, the questions were changed at baptism for legal purposes so they could have causation to defend themselves should you decide to sue for whatever reason.
The WT is God to practicing JW's for all practical purposes.
So very true. The sad thing is, they openly admit it and yet the sheeple are to willfully ignorant to see what is right in front of their own eyes.
Whom do Jehovah's Witnesses bow down to? To Jehovah, or to the governing body?
This is a direct quote from their Revelation book (bold is mine):
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revelation chap. 12 pp. 63-64 par. 19 “Keep On Holding Fast What
You Have"
19 From 1919 onward the anointed remnant, following Jesus’ example, launched into a vigorous campaign of declaring abroad the good news of the Kingdom. (Matthew 4:17; Romans 10:18) As a result, some of the modern synagogue of Satan, Christendom, came to this anointed remnant, repented and ‘bowed down,’ acknowledging the slave’s authority. They too came to serve Jehovah in union with the older ones of the John class. This continued until the full number of Jesus’ anointed brothers was gathered. Following this, “a great crowd ... out of all nations” has come to “bow down” to the anointed slave.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xixc6aqrozq.
what most jehovah’s witnesses don’t realize about their version of the new system is who’s gonna mow the grass?.
after the system is destroyed who’s gonna make that nail your pounding with a hammer?
Who IS emptying the trash cans and mopping the bathroom floors for the researchers in Yahweh's Utopian Society?
It damned sure isn't now and won't be any of the "new world" elders then!
"breaking news | 2023 conventions.
we are pleased to announce that the governing body has decided that, jehovah willing, we will resume in-person regional conventions in 2023. branches will now begin scheduling dates and selecting venues.
we pray for jehovah’s rich blessing to be with all those involved in the planning.".
I wonder if we will be expected to wear masks for the entire program?
No doubt about it. Just like they do at the kingdumb halls.
2022 governing body update # 6. what exciting news david splane has for all jehovah's witnesses ( who for the last three years were spared the house-to-house preaching work ) '' that we'll return to the ministry september 01, 2022. just in time for our world wide campaign to start bible studies.
and, i'm sure the angels are excited too, because it will give them opportunities to help us with our ministry.''.
not only will the witnesses be rusty in their return to the field ministry, the angels in heaven have been sitting idle while the pandemic stopped the house-to-house ministry.
I think the GB are looking for persecution to happen.
Not just looking for it to happen, also intentionally doing whatever they can to create situations where it will happen.
what`s wrong with you people lol isn`t it time to button up ?
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If you have a snake in your back yard, you put on the light and shine it on the snake, you watch what it does.
Not in my area. If it is a harmless snake we ignore it and let it crawl off to eat insects and mice. If it is a poisonous snake we KILL IT and dispose of it. We don't sit and watch it and poke it and try to herd it back in the yard so we can continue staring at it and poking it some more.
