what happens when a jehovah’s witness who has been disfellowshipped returns to attending the meetings again?.
mark jones writes:.
if it's the same congregation that they previously attended then, yes, the congregation will remember who they are and so continue to treat them as dead or invisible.. one of the identifying marks a cult is that it uses shame and humiliation to control members, to keep them from leaving and manipulating those who escaped into coming back.. a disfellowshipped person is never allowed to quietly leave with dignity.
Is there a Witness time limit on repentance?
Nearly fifteen years ago I personally asked an elder that very question. His answer? "No! There is NO set time limit. It could be 1 year, 5 years, 10 years twenty years, or maybe never."
Of course he was an arrogant POS.
https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/charges-probe-child-sexual-abuse-among-jehovahs-witnesses-pennsylvania/3600171/#:~:text=a%20pennsylvania%20grand%20jury%20investigating,that%20has%20identified%2014%20suspects.
what to know.
a pennsylvania grand jury investigating child sexual abuse among jehovah’s witnesses has charged another five people with raping or molesting children as young as 4 years old.. the indictments friday are the latest charges in an ongoing probe that has identified 14 suspects.. state attorney general michelle henry says that while the misconduct dates back years or even decades, “the trauma endures for these victims.”.
The average JW doesn't feel that the problem is that serious, some even denying that they even have a problem at all.
In the area I live I just heard a circuit overseer say that "ALL accusations of child sexual abuse perpetrated by a Jehovah's Witness is nothing other than a Satanic inspired apostate lie. Jehovah's Witnesses do NOT abuse children!"
I did not hear this second hand, I heard it personally. I personally know a forty year old ex JW woman who was abused from the time she was four until she was in her teens while her JW mother looked the other way, elders said "wait on Jehovah", and others of her family members accused her of lying. What that circuit overseer said was in response to my letting him know of that particular incident.
yes, there’s a post on reddit.
it says that after a zoom meeting a request was made to baptized publishers to give $20 apiece to fix this elder’s car.. while this sounds highly irregular to me and not necessarily approved by the religion, i am not at all surprised at the nerve.
this, unfortunately, seems to be the direction that things are going there!
They can go fly a kite.
LHG: I appreciate how polite you are able to be. I'm afraid I would have to tell them to GFT.
this week's first amendment case has a slant that may sound familiar to jws.
most are aware that the wt won a number of supreme court decisions in the '40s related to free speech (the first amendment of the us constitution).
in particular, the flag salute case in '39, which they lost, tried to argue that not saluting the flag was a religious issue.
It is definitely the correct decision that nobody should be forced to use their labour to do something that conflicts with their views.
Most of the cases were where certain people targeted a business on purpose, knowing in advance that their certain predilection was not shared by the business owner and so would give them the opportunity to agitate, sue, perform for the media, and generally try to ruin the business of someone whose beliefs did not cater to their lifestyle.
this is going to be very brief but a user recently tried to argue an argument that has already been refuted many times - the logic is somewhat sound but falls apart when the definition to the word used it looked and its usages in the bible.the word in question is "aionas" found in the scripture in question hebrews 1:2 .
(https://biblehub.com/hebrews/1-2.htm#lexicon)for starters look at the biblehub translations - do any of them state "outside of time" or that time was "created" in this moment - no because this seems to be heavily inspired by greek philosophy rather than the bible itself.note: i am not saying this word does not mean eternity or anything of the sort, i am saying this scripture some of the claims i dispute and can easily disprove, hence the argument is laughable.. bill mounce defines the word as:pr.
a period of time of significant character; life; an era; an age: hence, a state of things marking an age or era; the present order of nature; the natural condition of man, the world; ὁ αἰών, illimitable duration, eternity; as also, οἱ αἰῶνες, ὁ αἰῶν τῶν αἰώνων, οἱ αἰῶνες τῶν αἰώνων; by an aramaism οἱ αἰῶνες, the material universe, heb.
I have to say that I am seeing posts that prove the adage that some people can say so little with so many words.
the watchtower—study edition | september 2023. study article 37. rely on jehovah, as samson did.
4 consider an example of samson’s trust in jehovah and of the support that god supplied.
on one occasion, a philistine military force had come to capture samson at lehi, evidently in judah.
The Bible story of Samson truly is a Hollywood production. His hair makes him strong beyond human capabilities.
Maybe it wasn't his hair. Maybe he ate a can of spinach like Popeye?
putting this under "friends" because i couldn't figure out where to put it.
it is very often on here and in ex jw videos, ect that people like to undermine some of those who once we would have called friends.
there seems to be a view that window washers, plumbers, cleaners, construction workers are somehow less intelligent than those who may be college educated.
I'm just not sure what you are blathering about. .A lot of this around this place
I don't think anyone is forcing you to read threads here, or forcing you to stay. You are free to leave without repercussions if you don't like it here. Then you won't have to suffer people "blathering" about anything.
See, an insult works both ways.
dear brothers!.
we have gathered here because, according to your claims, i have apostatized, and as elders, it is your duty to maintain the purity of the flock.
it seems now that someone has contaminated it, apparently.
T.D.L.
In my opinion.
geoffrey jackson seems so much happier than back in 2015.. .
geoffrey jackson "not my field" australian royal commission 2015. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dki6j-ydc7e.
JRBrown "We know all our Sisters have pretty legs"
Sadly personal observation before quitting the CONvention hassle proved just the opposite. IMO.
article from the last days newsletter (june 5-11, 2023).
it has been said that by reading the watchtower and awake!
magazines, along with other publications of jehovah’s witnesses, a person will receive, over a period of years, a considerable and broad education.. …would you like to grow in knowledge, obtaining an education of even much greater value than can be received in any college?
snide remarks of, "You think too much" made JW's feel guilty for using their own brains.
They tried that B.S. comment on me more than once. I mentioned it to my father and his suggested reply was to say to them, "No, I don't think TOO much. YOU don't think enough!"
So nice to not have to put up with that garbage any more.
