Posts by FedUpJW

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Only one weekly meeting?

by mikeflood in

new wt october 2023....first an article remembering 1923....they make changes, the had a "prayer, praise and testimony weekly meeting".. after an study article about obey, specially paragraph 18.. i have a wild guess, next year, just one weekly meeting for the borg..

FedUpJW

If they abandoned The midweek meeting, how would they push the flock to grow out in service?

there's no way they could have a talk, WT study and a training programme for ministry all in a single 1.5-2 hour meeting.

Both have the potential of being true. In their We Looovvee Yueww mentality they could announce that, "the governing body is pleased to announce they have approved the decision that just ONE meeting per week will be held Sundays for three hours with the current two scheduled meetings being combined. That way brothers you can go out in service on Sunday mornings and meet back at your assigned group location for a simple lunch you can bring with you and enjoy up building association with each other and relating the fine experiences you had in your mornings activity and then enjoy your lovingly prepared three hour meeting in the afternoon. We know you will appreciate this loving new arrangement."

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If You Can Remember When This Was Displayed in the KH - You Ain't No Spring Chicken!

by mikronboy in

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FedUpJW

I remember it very well. I guess I am older than dirt.

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JWs unrecognisable compared to my grandfathers time

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

my grandfather who has been dead for 37 years would not recognise the borganisation today.

he would turn in his grave if he knew the end didn’t come by 2023.. back in the 1970s he really believed in the 75 thing.

he was so disappointed and almost blamed everyone else why the end didn’t come.

FedUpJW

the majority of study conductors don't know how to do them well or can't be bothered any more.

100% correct.

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JWs unrecognisable compared to my grandfathers time

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

my grandfather who has been dead for 37 years would not recognise the borganisation today.

he would turn in his grave if he knew the end didn’t come by 2023.. back in the 1970s he really believed in the 75 thing.

he was so disappointed and almost blamed everyone else why the end didn’t come.

FedUpJW

the only item that still requires some proper preparation and attention is the WT study,

I respectfully disagree about proper preparation. I took a look at the WT "study for this Sunday and took the very first paragraph as an example. The title of the article is "Improving the Quality of Our Prayers".

Question #1: What does Jehovah invite his worshippers to do?

Answer: We can approach Jehovah God in prayer. Jehovah invites us to do just that.

Of course some long-winded blowhard will basically re-read the paragraph adding some words (in bold) of their own. Today we have much stress and hard times to deal with so when we find ourselves facing uncertainties we may wonder whom can we turn to when we need comfort and guidance? Because of our Bible education as Jehovah's Witnesses we know the answer to that question. The Bible assures us in God's words that we can approach Jehovah God in prayer. Jehovah invites us to do just that. He wants us to pray often—to “pray constantly.” (1 Thess. 5:17) So we can freely approach him in prayer and seek his guidance in all aspects of our life. (Prov. 3:5, 6) It is so comforting in these times of dealing with this wicked world to know that being the generous God he is, Jehovah places no limit on the number of times we can pray to him. That is why it is important to always work hard to improve the quality of our prayers.

And that is one of the many reasons I became FedUp and why the WT study was so dull and ran overtime every Sunday.

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JWs unrecognisable compared to my grandfathers time

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

my grandfather who has been dead for 37 years would not recognise the borganisation today.

he would turn in his grave if he knew the end didn’t come by 2023.. back in the 1970s he really believed in the 75 thing.

he was so disappointed and almost blamed everyone else why the end didn’t come.

FedUpJW

My grandfather who has been dead for 37 years would not recognise the borganisation today. He would turn in his grave if he knew the end didn’t come by 2023.

I've said it before, my mother who was baptized in the 1940's made the comment shortly before her death, "If Jehovah's Witnesses were THEN what they are NOW I would have NEVER become one!"

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Treatment of Those Trying For Reinstatement

by Vanderhoven7 in

what happens when a jehovah’s witness who has been disfellowshipped returns to attending the meetings again?.

mark jones writes:.

if it's the same congregation that they previously attended then, yes, the congregation will remember who they are and so continue to treat them as dead or invisible.. one of the identifying marks a cult is that it uses shame and humiliation to control members, to keep them from leaving and manipulating those who escaped into coming back.. a disfellowshipped person is never allowed to quietly leave with dignity.

FedUpJW

Is there a Witness time limit on repentance?

Nearly fifteen years ago I personally asked an elder that very question. His answer? "No! There is NO set time limit. It could be 1 year, 5 years, 10 years twenty years, or maybe never."

Of course he was an arrogant POS.

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Pa. authorities charge 5 more in probe of child sex abuse among Jehovah's Witnesses

by AndersonsInfo in

https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/charges-probe-child-sexual-abuse-among-jehovahs-witnesses-pennsylvania/3600171/#:~:text=a%20pennsylvania%20grand%20jury%20investigating,that%20has%20identified%2014%20suspects.

what to know.

a pennsylvania grand jury investigating child sexual abuse among jehovah’s witnesses has charged another five people with raping or molesting children as young as 4 years old.. the indictments friday are the latest charges in an ongoing probe that has identified 14 suspects.. state attorney general michelle henry says that while the misconduct dates back years or even decades, “the trauma endures for these victims.”.

FedUpJW

The average JW doesn't feel that the problem is that serious, some even denying that they even have a problem at all.

In the area I live I just heard a circuit overseer say that "ALL accusations of child sexual abuse perpetrated by a Jehovah's Witness is nothing other than a Satanic inspired apostate lie. Jehovah's Witnesses do NOT abuse children!"

I did not hear this second hand, I heard it personally. I personally know a forty year old ex JW woman who was abused from the time she was four until she was in her teens while her JW mother looked the other way, elders said "wait on Jehovah", and others of her family members accused her of lying. What that circuit overseer said was in response to my letting him know of that particular incident.

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Reddit post about elder asking congregation for money to fix his car!

by LongHairGal in

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yes, there’s a post on reddit.

it says that after a zoom meeting a request was made to baptized publishers to give $20 apiece to fix this elder’s car.. while this sounds highly irregular to me and not necessarily approved by the religion, i am not at all surprised at the nerve.

this, unfortunately, seems to be the direction that things are going there!

FedUpJW

They can go fly a kite.

LHG: I appreciate how polite you are able to be. I'm afraid I would have to tell them to GFT.

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Supreme Court Decision on Free Speech this week

by dropoffyourkeylee in

this week's first amendment case has a slant that may sound familiar to jws.

most are aware that the wt won a number of supreme court decisions in the '40s related to free speech (the first amendment of the us constitution).

in particular, the flag salute case in '39, which they lost, tried to argue that not saluting the flag was a religious issue.

FedUpJW

It is definitely the correct decision that nobody should be forced to use their labour to do something that conflicts with their views.

Most of the cases were where certain people targeted a business on purpose, knowing in advance that their certain predilection was not shared by the business owner and so would give them the opportunity to agitate, sue, perform for the media, and generally try to ruin the business of someone whose beliefs did not cater to their lifestyle.

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"outside of time" argument

by Blotty in

this is going to be very brief but a user recently tried to argue an argument that has already been refuted many times - the logic is somewhat sound but falls apart when the definition to the word used it looked and its usages in the bible.the word in question is "aionas" found in the scripture in question hebrews 1:2 .

(https://biblehub.com/hebrews/1-2.htm#lexicon)for starters look at the biblehub translations - do any of them state "outside of time" or that time was "created" in this moment - no because this seems to be heavily inspired by greek philosophy rather than the bible itself.note: i am not saying this word does not mean eternity or anything of the sort, i am saying this scripture some of the claims i dispute and can easily disprove, hence the argument is laughable.. bill mounce defines the word as:pr.

a period of time of significant character; life; an era; an age: hence, a state of things marking an age or era; the present order of nature; the natural condition of man, the world; ὁ αἰών, illimitable duration, eternity; as also, οἱ αἰῶνες, ὁ αἰῶν τῶν αἰώνων, οἱ αἰῶνες τῶν αἰώνων; by an aramaism οἱ αἰῶνες, the material universe, heb.

FedUpJW

I have to say that I am seeing posts that prove the adage that some people can say so little with so many words.