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How do you feel about the expression "The Truth"?
by stuckinarut2 in
1. jw
2. experiences
it's amazing how the expression "the truth" has become such an ingrained term used by witnesses.. "we have 'the truth'".

"is he 'in the truth'?".

most here have found out so many facts about the organisation, and felt the effects of being "gut-punched" as we realised these facts.. so how do you feel about the expression "the truth" now?.
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Jehovah's witness doctrine on "only 144,000 are born again" easily debunked!
by yogosans14 in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
these verses in particular were an eye opener for me.

of course in the jws i thought only 144,000 are truly born again and are part of the new covenant but the bible says else wise.

i know most here will disagree with me but try to have a open mind here :).
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Memorial Attendance: The Single Most Impactful TTATT "Witness" to Family and Friends
by AMNESIANO in
1. jw
2. friends
anyone who has awakened to ttatt and conscientiously left the organization--especially a once-prominent individual from a prominent multi-generational tribe of jws-- after decades of devout, high-profile "serve-us," who continues to put in an annual appearance at the memorial thoroughly subverts and undermines, by this one act, any hope s/he may entertain that his/her departure will stir family or former friends to question the whole watchtower bamboozle.

by this one concession s/he assigns him-/herself by every single jw to their handy and dimissive purgatory: the "spiritually-weak.".

nothing blasts a louder, clearer, and more deliberate message to the jws who personally knew you and those familiar with your jw bona fides that you are not merely "not making the meetings" or "spiritually-weak" but that there is a conscientious reason you have rejected the entire watchtower society life than choosing to forego what they know you know to be their one-and-only holy and sacred event of the year, the lord's evening meal.
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Elders/Ex-Elders: Question about Blood
by JWdaughter in
1. watchtower
2. bible
after many years of objecting to the wt teachings on many levels, blood being one of them, i recently started to wonder (ok, i am slow!

) : what exactly does the wt think that the early non jewish christians were abstaining from in the blood abstention bit.

while i understand the context of the request that the apostle sent to the brothers, i do not understand what jws think they were abstaining from.. meat slaughtered improperly?.
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The End of False Religion Is Near! HAHAHA
by tootired2care in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
memories!

i remember a few years back being involved in the campaign work, and having the distinctly awkward experience of having to hand the householders this piece of sh1t tract "the end of false religion is near!"..

i recall the discomfort i had trying to get into a conversation about this nonsense.
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pre 1981 Disassociation rules.
by Aussie Oz in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
can anybody point me to actual written society instruction pre 1981, regarding not shunning da ones?.

i know they included shunning as of the wt sept 15 1981, but was before that time purely an unwritten practice or what?.

oz.
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10 Years Japan losses 5,400 Publishers and 638 Kingdom Halls! Why?
by Witness 007 in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
japan had a handful of witnesses after ww 2....this number skyrocketed to 222,912 by 1998!

then something happened.

publisher figures didn't stop, they dropped by thousands over the next decade!.
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So what caused you to have doubts in the first place?
by nicolaou in
1. jw
2. friends
i had no doubts at all about the 'truth' untill a friend of mine in the cong' began falling away.

in trying to help him i had to ask questions and do research and that of course cracked the doors of my mind open for the first time in over thirty years.. years ago, when jwd allowed members to have signatures, i used the following quote from voltaire as mine.

i still love it.. doubt is uncomfortable, certainty is ridiculous..
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I hate the Watchtower but I really still hate the Trinity Jesus is NOT God!
by Witness 007 in
1. jw
2. experiences
some bibles use the term "worship" when refering to jesus...at times people did fall down and bow to him........this doesn't show he was god!

the greek term; proskeyneo, means to prostrate oneself, to bow down and show honour.

now, this was done for jehovah.....and his representatives....jesus israelite kings and priests....but for the honour of jehovah not as creature worship which even angels would refuse.. also i studied the non-biblical early church gospels which really does show a slow decline over 150 years, into the trinity as the watchtower claims...........although i still hate the watchtower society at least i learnt something that wasn't a lie..
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Beautiful Circularity
by Euphemism in
1. watchtower
2. bible
just ran across this beautiful example of circular reasoning from the watchtower.w85 12/1 31. .

questions from readers.

was the apostle paul part of the christian governing body?.