Posts by Jehalapeno

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A Positive Approach to discussing the changes - Gov Body Update Aftermath

by Jehalapeno in

so, just got off a very emotional, but positive call with my father.. this past weekend, he wanted to give me a call, but i was out of town at a wedding, so he said he'd call me later in the week.. he texted me the governing body update video with the recent changes and said, "i thought you might be interested in some of the changes that were just announced.".

i'm tired of self-censorship, so i decided to reply as truthfully and respectfully as i could.. my reply to him:.

it's interesting.

Jehalapeno

Update: I decided to test whether or not this was just a memorial thing or because they were told to reach out. Invited him to lunch.

He agreed to have lunch with me next month when I am in town. So, he’s “having a meal” with someone like me.

Perhaps it’s because I’m not officially disfellowshipped or disassociated?

I was a “known apostate” for a while. (Some of you may know me as Cappytan.)

However, I’ve never been dealt with judicially either in absentia or otherwise.

Perhaps the loosening of how disfellowshipped ones being treated at the Kingdom Hall made it so his conscience allows him to open up the relationship again since I’m only “inactive” on paper?

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A Positive Approach to discussing the changes - Gov Body Update Aftermath

by Jehalapeno in

so, just got off a very emotional, but positive call with my father.. this past weekend, he wanted to give me a call, but i was out of town at a wedding, so he said he'd call me later in the week.. he texted me the governing body update video with the recent changes and said, "i thought you might be interested in some of the changes that were just announced.".

i'm tired of self-censorship, so i decided to reply as truthfully and respectfully as i could.. my reply to him:.

it's interesting.

Jehalapeno

So, just got off a very emotional, but positive call with my father.

This past weekend, he wanted to give me a call, but I was out of town at a wedding, so he said he'd call me later in the week.

He texted me the Governing Body Update video with the recent changes and said, "I thought you might be interested in some of the changes that were just announced."

I'm tired of self-censorship, so I decided to reply as truthfully and respectfully as I could.

My reply to him:

It's interesting. Seems Morris was holding them back from beginning to make some positive strides towards reform. I hope it continues. Genuinely.

Today, he called me. Asked me what I thought about the changes.

I reiterated that it's a step in the right direction and that I hope more is coming along these lines.

He mentioned my comment about Morris and said he's not sure about that. And I said, "Well, no, of course I don't have proof of it. It's very coincidental, though, that Tony Morris leaves the governing body and within a year all these changes start being made. That's not evidence he was holding them back, but I think it certainly raises the question of that being a possibility."

AND HE AGREED

He let me criticize the organization...I brought up how disfellowshipped people are treated and that I hope they continue to refine that policy because it's very cruel...

It ended up being a nice and respectful conversation about him having hope that I return, but respecting that it's my decision and me telling him I don't want him to have false hope, but I do hope we can have regular talks again.

I closed with: "I have hope that the religion you and mom follow, whether I follow it or not, will continue to make these positive changes and it becomes even more enjoyable for you both."

AND HE THANKED ME FOR THAT STATEMENT.

Look, I know that many of these changes are superficial in comparison to lots of the issues the organization is having. But we should be allowed to be happy that at least SOME things are moving in a more positive direction.

I sincerely do hope that the religion we all have loved ones in becomes less and less intrusive on their lives. I would love for it to happen overnight, but I can live with having it happen little by little over time.

And, want to shout out the activists in Norway. There's no evidence these changes are directly related to their efforts in that country or not, however it's another interesting coincidence. Thank you to those activists for CARING enough to see it through.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

by Simon in

jw
friends

uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

Jehalapeno

As long as one is parodying someone else, there is no way they can sue you for imitating their voice either naturally or with AI.

The only way it can become actionable legally is if the person was attempting to impersonate and pass themselves off as the real Lloyd. Pastahour made it pretty clear that it was a parody.

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GB Update #2, March 2024: Women allowed to wear pants, no ties/coats required if not giving a talk, & now able to greet DF ones in the KH!

by WingCommander in

jw
friends

you heard me correct, this is not a joke, and it is not april fools day!

the asl portion of the governing body updated #2 (march 2024) has been released a bit early and someone caught it.

summary: .

Jehalapeno

lawsuits will flood the courts from cases decades old.

In the US, the statute of limitations on wrongful death or personal injury lawsuits varies, but most states are 2-3 years from the cause of action, which would be the death from refusing blood transfusions.

In the US, the rule change would be impossible to use as a cause of action due to first amendment protections.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

by Simon in

jw
friends

uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

Jehalapeno

1000 subscribers in a week... riiiight. It took him forever to hit 110,000.
And what has he done to earn that? Two videos in two weeks and the one about Norway is still languishing at a sad 12K views in 2 days.
I call bullshit.

This is just a lack of understanding on how YouTube publicly reports subscriber counts. At certain thresholds, it only updates the count every 1k subscribers. So, for example, one could be sitting at 101k subscribers for years while subscribers trickle in and out. Once the count adds up to 102k, then YouTube updates the public facing subscriber count.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

by Simon in

jw
friends

uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

Jehalapeno

I don’t know what kind of food Croatia serves other than I’m sure it’s close to Greek cuisine and other cuisines of the eastern Mediterranean, but I am sure of one thing:

“Beans on Toast” isn’t a Croatian dish.

How can someone that comes from a culture of “beans on toast” criticize another country’s dishes?

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

by Simon in

jw
friends

uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

Jehalapeno

Hendiks is frankly more scandalous. The very head of JW's PID and face of the Org.....caught fornicating!!

Yeah, where is the story about Hendricks? Hadn’t heard that yet.

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Lloyd Evans Patreoff Pool February 2024

by DerekMoors in

happy new year!

time to give us your vote for lloyd's fall from grace this month.. december 6th he was at 406. as of today, january 3rd, he's at 388. that is exactly, on the dot, where he was january 3rd of last year!

he's lost all gains from his begging videos and reminders and tin cup waving and etc.. so, fire up the shrooms and let us know where you think flab boy will be on february 2nd.

Jehalapeno

If he simply had released a contrite statement, returned two months later and never spoke about this again, it's possible he could have been back at 897 now and climbing. Certainly not this low.

Precisely. In my exjw circle, I've been saying the same thing since it happened. He failed at managing the PR crisis tremendously.

Even narcissists don't shy away from apologizing. They don't mean the apology, but they will apologize if failing to apologize means they'll lose any kind of status.

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Stop the Electric car solar power brainwashing Lies!!

by Witness 007 in

ford e.v cars lost the company 1.3 billion in three months!

i put 18 solar panels on my house but only get a small rebate $50 a quarter.

bill is $400.

Jehalapeno

Solar companies in my neck of the woods are extremely predatory and use very shady JW-like sales practices.

On the topic of crap sales practices:

Never sign up for one of those "free water testing" things when you go to the hardware store.

These are usually run by water softener companies (Rainsoft in my area) and they come by your house and do a really hard sell. They require your spouse to be there too, only for the reason in that it's hard for you to refuse the sale if your spouse is convinced.

The companies that do sales tactics like this are usually overpriced compared to competitors, and it's really hard to say no.

I was promised that the "free water test" would only take 20 minutes and the sales guy ended up being here for 3 hours. I was way too polite and should've told him to STFU and leave. It was the most painful sales experience I ever had.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

by Simon in

jw
friends

uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

Jehalapeno

Has anyone else pointed out that the date of that upcoming interview just so happens to also be the 2 year anniversary of Kim exposing his proclivities and his infamous subsequent meltdown on livestream?