uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
Curious: does anyone else wonder if him admitting to taking psychedelic mushrooms is cause for Dijiana to file for FULL CUSTODY of the children (with visitation at her discretion) due to his reckless and illegal behaviour?
uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
Someday, people are gonna feel real silly denigrating psychedelic use. It’s very healing.
Can’t fix stupid, though. Too bad for that POS Lloyd.
if you don't want to be thrown into gehenna, read what your own faithful evil slave & christ say:.
cj chap.
3 p. 110 chapter 3 - "jesus christ said: “whoever says, ‘you despicable fool!’ (apostate) will be liable to the fiery gehenna.” (matt.
An apostate completely abandons their religion and openly denounces it
That’s the whole point. 😂
I’m definitely an apostate.
I’m not sure you thought through your post.
you read this correctly.
as i explained in an earlier post, i am a "ghostwriter" for the original resetter.
i'm a woman, a pimo regular pioneer working for my friend who was redsetter1 on reddit.
I would suggest anyone wanting to leak information without hard evidence connect with Atlantis or the person that runs AvoidJW to safely verify their identity before posting claims without hard evidence. They are trustworthy when it comes to protecting whistleblowers.
If Atlantis and/or AvoidJW can verify anon's identity truly is in alignment with who they're claiming to be, that's a game changer when it comes to believing the 10 year plan.
i’ve noticed a pattern where things don’t go the way i expect them to go and/or whenever i realise there is a trend and, i mentally adjust for the idea that the trend will continue, the trend stops in its tracks.
so on that basis, and given many people, including myself, and active jws, have been asking ‘what changes will the governing body make next?’ perhaps the (disappointing) answer is: ‘nothing much for a while to come’.
maybe they’ve made the changes they want for now, and will wait a while and see how it’s received.
I notice in the original post, the term “a while” is used when talking about how long until the next changes.
Is this intentionally vague? They could come out with more changes in October and you’d still be right that it was “a while” until the next changes were announced.
”Just a little while longer and death will be no more…”
so, i thought i'd start a thread about any beautiful photos of places you've been to, or just beautiful photos.. i'll go first .... .
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copyright: daniel burton.. this is bøur, a little village in the faeroe islands, population 74.. i've never been there but i'd love to visit one day.
One of the footbridges at the Grand Canyon I took on an early 2020 trip. (Before the COVID closures.)
i am thinking that the "ten year plan" that some have spoken of is the most likely scenario.
the org.
has to both attract new members and retain as many existing ones as possible.. so i think they will let the recent changes "bed in" for a while, maybe a year ?
1914 is the cornerstone to the JW Borg theology..
Without that,,Christ could not have came down and,,inspected all the religions and chosen the International Bible Students Association as Gods channel in 1919.
You hear these governing bodys doubling down on 607BCE as the fall of Jerusalem to Babylon as it lines up with their ideology.
I wanted to comment on this statement earlier in the thread.
This is how it feels to those of us that grew up in this organization, explored our doubts, deconstructed our faith, and left.
For those still believing, I genuinely believe the 80/20 rule will hold fast if they change 1914. 80% of people will accept it without question, 20% may have doubts. I don't think 20% will leave over it, but a portion of that 20% will leave.
I don't see them dropping the teaching altogether, but "refining" the significance of 1914 and talking less and less about it as being significant as time goes on.
it’s been a long time since i’ve kept up with anything jw-related.
but just a couple days ago, i heard about all the new changes—beards, shunning, etc.
i was surprised, so i asked an old friend who i hadn’t spoken to in ages what happened.
One scenario I've been speculating on is that perhaps Tony resigned out of protest for the changes being proposed.
If that guy that came on here claiming to know about the "10 year plan" is in earnest and not some LARPing troll, then his resignation may have coincided with their approval of the "10 year plan".
If Tony was vehemently against it on ideological grounds, I can see him resigning in protest. "I won't have my name associated with these worldly changes."
there's a lot going on, and a lot of saying.the interpretation of the scriptures, their internal doctrine and their policy change.. the 1914, 1919 and its consequences.. the birthdays and other holidays.. the beard, the tie, the slacks.. the "hi, nice to see you here".. but at the end of the day, what they're in control of, is a community.
a society of people.
and a corporation as well, that controls all this.. many of them don't even really mind about those changes.
All the reasons you list is why I no longer care for "waking" people up, but want to see reform happen.
I would rather the people I love that are still in the organization have a less oppressive environment than have them go through that emotionally turbulent crisis of faith.
Yes, it sucks that they believe lies.
But so does every religion that has magical thinking.
The things that make JWs unique is specifically the level of behavior and information control the org inflicts on the flock.
If they went down to church on the corner levels of control and brainwashing, I would see that as a huge victory.
As it stands, the religion I woke up from in 2014 is no longer the same religion. That Watchtower has crumbled. The Watchtower of Rutherford's time has crumbled.
What we're left with today is watered down.
For the sake of our loved ones still in it, lets hope it continues to be watered down even further.
