Posts by Cimarrona

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JWs don’t break up families

by Jules Saturn in

i get very angry when i hear this claim being made by jws and get even angrier when i read the article they have on their faq section on jw.org which i’ll leave a link here:.

https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/families/.

i know that the majority of this article is written about having a spouse that isn’t a believer and how the bible encourages them to stay together but that’s one of the things that can cause division in a family, for an example if a son or daughter marry a nonbeliever or a worldly person the parents aren’t going to attend the wedding.. once i was told by an elder that if i continued with my behavior of wanting to seek worldly friends and worldly companionship that i would have to leave my home because the holy spirit would leave my house and that would have a huge impact on my family.

Cimarrona

I'm remember going over this from the Reasoning Book during the service meeting. You shouldn't have to practice explaining things that are true. IJS.

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matured mentally

by Akid48 in

i dont know if any one else is feeling this but after waking up i feel like i matured mentally etc.. im only 13 maybe its just me but i wanted to know if any had this feeling just a quick post..

Cimarrona

Congratulations to you for being 13 and waking up. I don't know you but I'm proud nonetheless. I've found that I've matured mentally, emotionally, and intellectually - and six years later, there's still so much more maturing to do. Keep the not-faith, kid.

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Is There Any Thing That Would Make A JW SERIOUSLY Question Their Religion?

by minimus in

jw
friends

i realize that jehovah’s witnesses have been dumbed down for long time now.

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still, i think there must be something that would make them really question their beliefs, even their life.. i think that if witnesses were told they could take blood or that disfellowshipping was unloving, they might stop and take a hard look at everything they have sacrificed their lives for.. i know the organization has muddled these subjects before but the i think even die hard witnesses might start to second guess the governing body..

Cimarrona

The only thing that I think could pooooossibly do it for everyone would be if they received "new light" that shone there's no hope for a paradise earth. That's the carrot that everyone's following.

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JWs don’t break up families

by Jules Saturn in

i get very angry when i hear this claim being made by jws and get even angrier when i read the article they have on their faq section on jw.org which i’ll leave a link here:.

https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/families/.

i know that the majority of this article is written about having a spouse that isn’t a believer and how the bible encourages them to stay together but that’s one of the things that can cause division in a family, for an example if a son or daughter marry a nonbeliever or a worldly person the parents aren’t going to attend the wedding.. once i was told by an elder that if i continued with my behavior of wanting to seek worldly friends and worldly companionship that i would have to leave my home because the holy spirit would leave my house and that would have a huge impact on my family.

Cimarrona

Sigh. It's disgusting. Even my "worldly" brother who slipped through the never baptized loophole and still has relationships with family members blames me for ruining our family. "You're the one with the power to change things," they say. By lying for the rest of my life to make y'all feel better about your cowardice? Nah, I'm good.

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Do you believe in god?

by freakyAL in

i used to be a staunch believer in god.

maybe its technology and science advancing so much thats got me doubting idk.

do you believe in god?

Cimarrona

I think that belief in god allows people negate responsibility for their own actions. I am the shaper of my reality. I have the ability to change that which I don't like (or at least make an attempt at it) or to sustain that which I do like, and my actions have a direct impact on whatever circumstances I find myself in. I'm my own god. I guess Satan was right about that tree lol.

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The Unforgivable Sin (LOL)

by Cimarrona in

i remember my mother teaching me that a conscience was like an alarm in my head that would warn me when i'm on the verge of doing something immoral.

if i ignored the beeping, the batteries would run out.

i'd lose my moral compass.

Cimarrona

I remember my mother teaching me that a conscience was like an alarm in my head that would warn me when I'm on the verge of doing something immoral. If I ignored the beeping, the batteries would run out. I'd lose my moral compass. JWs teach that that is the unforgivable sin - exhausting Holy Spirit by ignoring a JW-trained conscience. The consequence of committing the unforgivable sin is eternal destruction, they said. Gehenna. Once you died, you'd be dead forever without the hope of resurrection in a paradise earth. When I first left, it scared me. I was comfortable with being dead forever (and since suicide wasn't the unforgivable sin as Catholics teach, willing to hedge my bets by killing myself before Armageddon); but the idea that the Holy Spirit would disappear from my life and take with it love, joy, peace, goodness, and kindness (fuck the other four fruitages). I'd find myself grateful for the shame and guilt I felt because, in my mind at the time, those feelings were reassurance that I hadn't committed the unforgivable sin yet. The despair I felt, the loneliness, the thoughts about seeking reinstatement only to become inactive, THE SERIOUS CONSIDERATION OF KILLING MYSELF BECAUSE OF COURSE I COULDN'T AFFORD TO DIE DURING ARMAGEDDON - all evidence of God's active force chipping away the ice from my hardened heart. Was this what it felt like to be called by Jehovah? Thank god. Here I'd been thinking I was being shunned for something I couldn't control - never having been called by God - when actually he was with me all along, making me feel terrible every step of the way. Anyway... my alarm eventually stopped beeping. Not because I lost my moral compass but because, somehow, leaving god's appointed earthly organization I got one. I feel less inclined to lie now - about why I can't come to my friend's birthday party or buy her a Christmas present or suck my partner's dick (or more accurately how I am indeed sucking his dick). About the funny smelling smoke wafting about my apartment and the dried mushrooms in my fridge. I have all the sex I want because, like seriously, when has humankind ever really not been about sex outside of marriage, and I carry my bastard child around like a badge of honor. And other than that I just sleep, eat, study, write, and use the toilet. There isn't even as much opportunity for sin in my worldly little life as they'd had me thinking. I reach a moral impasse maybe once a year. I'm almost disappointed.

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Why Jehovah witnesses don't say, "Bless you" ?

by Issa in

jw
friends

bless you, that was a big sneeze you let out sister.. sister- ah, what does "bless you" mean?.

oh, it's pagan.

because people bless the soul of the person so they don't escape from their physical bodies.. sister- right, it is difficult to change the little things, but we can please jehovah by staying away from those things.. .... this is a scenario that happened when i accidentally (naturally) said "bless you" to the jw sister.

Cimarrona

It's also worth noting that, in every culture I've ever observed, there is some statement made after people sneeze. In several languages, that response is simply wishing the sneezer good health. Seems like a fairly logical response to finding out someone is sick. Nothing pagan about it. But... JWs who speak those languages s still don't respond because the basis of the Borg is Anglo-American hegemony.

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Watchtower Society Embarrassments.

by Vinny in

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Cimarrona

Wowzers. Thank you, Vinny. This was... just wow.

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It's been a GREAT week for me!

by dubstepped in

so as some of you know i have a podcast called this jw life.

i put my story out there in 9 parts, and i've had lots of great experiences so far and met lots of nice people and i've made new internet friends, even some in person.

this last seven days though has been soooooo cool!.

Cimarrona

Thank you for sharing the good vibes and news!

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Pale.Emperor Meets A Born Again Christian

by pale.emperor in

of all the religions out there one religion that's always filled me with exasperation was the born again christian belief system.

to make matters worse, the street preachers i see and hear here in liverpool always tend to be crack pot, loud mouths, attention seeking and just plain annoying.. this idea that "im going to heaven, you're going to hell" is enough to make me not want to worship their god even if he did exist.

but today i met two.

Cimarrona

So sad that the only thing keeping the nice one from committing suicide is belief in some dude who, at best, is the compilation of several historical figures over millennia who exhibited admirable qualities, none of whom were gods son born of a virgin. and at worst is a complete fabrication.