Posts by Cimarrona

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Do You Know Any “Gay” Jehovah’s Witnesses?

by minimus in

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of course the religion condemns homosexuality but did you know any gay witnesses?

i knew some bethelites that were very effeminate and i remember 4 women who were suspected of being lesbians by many in the congregation.

they eventually moved away and were very vocal against males, especially elders..

Cimarrona

I had a friend growing up who was DF'd at least three times, but for whatever reason, kept coming back to be abused and told he was disgusting and that all sex outside of vaginal intercourse in a heterosexual marriage was unacceptable to invisible sky daddy. Last I heard, he moved away cause he couldn't deal with everyone knowing that he "used to be" gay (and treating him according to the homophobia the religion encourages). But remains a dub

Also, there was an older pioneer brother who was very effeminate. Always out in service any time you see him. He was a friend of my parents. An elder. Married with a daughter. But after reading someone else's comments about coaching I just realized that I'd never seen him give a public talk or a talk at the convention oddly enough. When he died years ago, he had the most well-attended funeral I'd ever been to. And when my father (he conducted the funeral) asked that those whom he'd converted raise their hands, literally hundreds of people raised their hands. I wonder if his zealousness was a result of guilt/shame.

Also, I want to acknowledge that being effeminate is not actually evidence of one's sexuality. Which is both to say - just cause a man is effeminate doesn't mean he is sexually or romantically attracted to men and just cause a man is masculine doesn't mean he isn't sexually or romantically attracted to men

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Family Insists on Having Relationship with My Child -_-

by Cimarrona in

hi gang, i'm a single mother of an 8 month old baby boy.

i've been df'd for over six years now.

my parents are super dubs and most of my siblings are dubs (on paper - a couple have been inactive my entire life but still claim to believe) with the exception of a brother who was never baptized.

Cimarrona

Thanks for the words of wisdom, everyone! Y'all are right. Sigh.

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Women must not instruct men, even by singing a theocratic song.

by Ultimate Axiom in

i did a quick search and this doesn’t appear to have been commented on here, but if it has been, i apologise in advance for starting an unnecessary thread.. regarding a change to a song title, the study article on page 7 paragraph 17 of november 2017 watchtower explained, “the change of the title “guard your heart” to “we guard our hearts” was most considerate.

in the audience at our meetings, assemblies, and conventions are many new ones, interested ones, young ones, and sisters who by singing the words would be put in the awkward position of telling others what to do.

so the title and the lyrics were modified.”.

Cimarrona

Astute observation @Morpheus

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Family Insists on Having Relationship with My Child -_-

by Cimarrona in

hi gang, i'm a single mother of an 8 month old baby boy.

i've been df'd for over six years now.

my parents are super dubs and most of my siblings are dubs (on paper - a couple have been inactive my entire life but still claim to believe) with the exception of a brother who was never baptized.

Cimarrona

Thank you for that thorough explanation @wake me up

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Family Insists on Having Relationship with My Child -_-

by Cimarrona in

hi gang, i'm a single mother of an 8 month old baby boy.

i've been df'd for over six years now.

my parents are super dubs and most of my siblings are dubs (on paper - a couple have been inactive my entire life but still claim to believe) with the exception of a brother who was never baptized.

Cimarrona

@m3tadata similar situation happened with my other sister. She's an uber uber dub - doing her assignment in bumfuck nowhere post-SKE/mid-30s virgin/y'all know the type. She came into town and my mom brought the baby to see her and only told me very matter of fairly thereafter. I told my mom then that if anyone wants a relationship with Amistad they can ask me and they can come to my house if I see fit to facilitate it. She didn't talk to me for several weeks after that. Shrug.

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Family Insists on Having Relationship with My Child -_-

by Cimarrona in

hi gang, i'm a single mother of an 8 month old baby boy.

i've been df'd for over six years now.

my parents are super dubs and most of my siblings are dubs (on paper - a couple have been inactive my entire life but still claim to believe) with the exception of a brother who was never baptized.

Cimarrona

Hi gang, I'm a single mother of an 8 month old baby boy. I've been df'd for over six years now. My parents are super dubs and most of my siblings are dubs (on paper - a couple have been inactive my entire life but still claim to believe) with the exception of a brother who was never baptized. For awhile, I had no choice but to rely on my parents for childcare support when I had to go into the office or had a pressing deadline or just wanted to clean my house. Regretfully, I would let them pick him up to go to their house, knowing that I was not allowed there. Now, granted, I wasn't trying to go over - I had my own shit to do. It was just a bad precedent to set. Anyway, I had to put my foot down a week or so ago when my sister (who had been df'd when I was a kid; her husband and kids aren't dubs) told me she'd be in town and asked if my baby could come over to my parents house (where i can't enter cause Jesus or paul or somebody said don't let them cross your threshold) to visit with them. I was just like, "As long as your desire to have a relationship with my child is contingent on my absence, you will not have a relationship with him. I'm not allowing him to be taught that I'm to be treated as less than for any reason, biblical or otherwise. I am open, as I always have been, to developing a loving, respectful, harmonious relationship so that you can show him by example that I am to be loved and respected. He will not be exposed to anything else." She responded saying that she wasn't ignoring me but was running late getting on the road and she'd reach out later. I haven't heard anything back yet. I'm glad to have ended 2017/started 2018 with some former boundaries. I've seen my dad a few times since her visit (my parents are my landlords) and none of those times has he asked if they could pick up the baby (a standard question for him) which leads me to believe that she conveyed my message to the rest of them. It definitely makes life harder. I'd like to clean my house and take a shower and get my work done and run errands without having to get a baby in and out of the car. But life could be much harder. I have no expectations of them and at this point can't even say I miss 'em. I do wish my sister would let her husband invite me to his family holidays though. He reached out via social media to apologize for not being prohibited from doing so by her. Eye roll.

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what is the sales technique here?

by Kevin McFree in

jw's will never knock on your door and say, "hi, we are here to convert you".

speaking to a reporter recently a jw media rep at hq said " our main purpose going door to door is not to convert but to share bible truths with people".

does anyone know the sales techniques involved here?

Cimarrona

But to them, the fundamental "bible truth" is that they are the one true religion worshipping the only true god. So... the intention of sharing bible truths as they say would always be to make them believe that they need to join the one true religion.

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So my PIMO Younger Brother Tried To Kill Himself Today

by pale.emperor in

we all know that this cult will drive those trying to leave to desperate measures, and today by brother was very nearly one of those statistics.

he slashed his thigh with a kitchen knife and was bleeding out until he called the police.. i got a call on my way home from work from a police officer, coincidentally it was one of my old friends from school who's now a cop.

he told me my brother is in hospital after an attempted suicide and has lost some blood but will be ok. but i should get to the hospital as he's asking for me.

Cimarrona

Wow. This makes my heart hurt. None of this is your fault. None of it. I hope that your brother receives the support he needs and that he can discern who is truly there for him as a person and not a "publisher."

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Pro-Blood Transfusion Directives for the Ex-JW

by Cimarrona in

hey everyone, i have a question... all of my family members are jehovah's witnesses, save my son and me.

if something were to happen to me and i lost consciousness, my parents would be the best of kin called on to make medical decisions.

how do i ensure that if a transfusion is needed, hospital/doctors are clear that i do indeed want a transfusion and that my parents cannot override that decision?

Cimarrona

Hey everyone, I have a question... all of my family members are Jehovah's witnesses, save my son and me. If something were to happen to me and I lost consciousness, my parents would be the best of kin called on to make medical decisions. How do I ensure that if a transfusion is needed, hospital/doctors are clear that I do indeed want a transfusion and that my parents cannot override that decision? What legal whatevers would I need??? I'd never thought about this until reading a post about transfusions a few minutes ago. I'm not going to let them kill me or take me away from my child.

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It's My 25th Birthday!!!

by Cimarrona in

and i'm glad to alive and celebrating!

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Cimarrona

And thanks, everybody! How great it is to celebrate life and be happily tethered to reality and the material world as it is and not as some coocks imagine it "should" be! I'm looking forward to the next year of growth, material and spiritual prosperity (!!!), lessons, love and romance 😍, intrigue, and good health for me, my son, and anyone else my well wishes can reach!