Posts by Sargon

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My letter to the press....

by CoonDawg in

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someone posted this link on another board.... http://www.ksdk.com/news/news_article_lc.asp?storyid=35184.

the news story was of particular interest to me, as my daughter's abuser lives about an hour south of st. louis where this story originates.. here is my email to them, as edited by my jw wife.. .

dear sir or madam: .

Sargon

CoonDawg,

I can't beleive the patience you've shown. I'm impressed. I hope the justice system gives you and your daughter every thing you deserve, and that 'tiny' pursues this justice with a vengeance!!

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some have made vows when they were witnesses.for example:become a spiritual eunuch,refrain from alcoholic beverages,singleness,etc.. do these vows still count with god,if they were given during the deception of the society?

blueblades

Sargon

Vows to a God are made to be broken. The only vows that really count, in my opinion, are vows made to oneself.

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Is Experience Necessary For Knowledge?

by Satanus in

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imagine, if you will, that you are the only thing that exists.

imagine that you need no oxygen, because you had everything you need.

that means that, outside yourself, there is nothing to see, hear, feel or sense in any way.

Sargon

I remember reading back in the '70's about a scientist (i think it was Pavlov) who built a deprivation chamber for his daughter. Basically denying her all of all senses, to find out what she would learn. I can't even remember what the eventual results or conclusions were, I'll try to look it up this afternoon. I would imagine that this would be a similar environment as Jehovah expeienced in the Christian Mythology. Interesting analagy SS.

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Photo of Russel Exploring Giza Pyramids

by Gerard in

i found this in a french web site, i thought it was interesting.. .

french text (original): http://pages.globetrotter.net/mleblank/doctrine/pyrwt.html.

translation: http://www.letusreason.org/jw16.htm

Sargon

He might have been a more balanced individual if he'd spent more time exploring his wife, than being off in Egypt exploring the pyramids and reading the bible.

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Nice to be free from the rules...............

by Dawn in

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i had lunch with a friend and she was sharing with me a story about sister "so and so" and brother "so and so" and what everyone else thought about their dating, and how long their "courtship" should be and still be considered ok - is it too long, too short, - would they get in trouble because he stopped by the house to say hi when the rest of her family was gone - was it ok that they stood out in the front yard - what elder so and so's wife said - yadda yadda yadda.............as her words blurred together all i could think was thank god i am free!!!!!!!!!!!!.

what stress it was to live my life under such a microscope.

it wasn't whether i did something wrong or not (just like these two individuals) - it was could i prove that i didn't do something wrong when i was accused by someone else.. free at last.........free at last.....thank god almight i'm free at last!!!.

Sargon

Good for you Dawn. Ain't it nice to be free of the:

Watchtower Back Stab and Cattyness Society of Brooklyn.

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On the flip side... a question for those not raised as a jw

by TheSilence in

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okay, someone recently asked if those raised as jws felt they would have gone for it as adults.

my question is for those of you not raised as a jw, what convinced you that it really was "the truth"?

ive often wondered and come upon my own theories as to why people join this religion, but i find that when friends ask me what makes people join i cant really answer in a way that they understand.. jackie

Sargon

We were raised as a fairly non-religious family. My parents tried taking us 4 kids to church when we were all young. When you have 4 hyperactive children in the 60's (before ritalin), it's not a good idea to take them to church.

Anyways the witnesses found their way into our life in the early 70's. Both my parents started studying, but my Mom stuck with it. I studied until '77., then buggered off.

The only real observation I have is that everyone in my family who followed 'the tooth' only did so after experiencing a major calamity in their life. It seems that when people are in this vulnerable position, they are most susceptable to the crap these vultures dish out.

I'd go into more detail, but there are things I've NEVER talked about to anyone, and things in the family that have to remain there.

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The Long Prayer

by Beans in

amen, probably the most relieving word for a witness!

remember how those meetings went on and on and on and then you get that brother who loves to turn his prayer into the "sermon on the podium".

yes delivering words as if they were being channeled through jehovah right to you!.

Sargon

I remember those. We used to have a brother from the Ukraine (or was it Poland), doesn't matter, we couldn't understand a single word his said. Whenever he spoke to me I'd just kinda nod and smile, to be polite. His prayers were the longest going, couldn't understand a damn thing he said until amen.

PHHHEEEWWW!!! Amen he was finished.

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HILARIOUS Article on the Famous Ram Incident!!!

by Gerard in

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/01/27/1043533999915.html

january 28 2003. by andrew masterson.

let us now praise famous sheep.

Sargon

As usual Gerard, you've stimulated my juvenile mind... Thanx again excellant article!!! PMSL!!!!

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Orlando KH Spray-Painted w/Graffiti Saturday

by abbagail in

fwiw... sunday, 2/16/03:

earlier today i was half-heartedly watching the noon news (wesh channel #2) when i heard them mention "kingdom hall.

" i looked up and they showed the two front doors had been spray painted with the word "brainwash" in big red letters.

Sargon

Hey Grits, if you see the follow up to this story it'll probably claim an exhorbitant fee in damages for insurance claims. I'm sure a little paints going to cost at least $5,000 to clean up. LOL.

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US ships garbage back to Canada!!

by Sargon in

i don't know how many here have heard of ernst zundel.

he's a german born white supremicist who spent many years living in canada.

he ran into problems with our laws sometime in the 80's writing his revisionist literature about the holocaust never happening.

Sargon

I don't know how many here have heard of Ernst Zundel. He's a German born white supremicist who spent many years living in Canada. He ran into problems with our laws sometime in the 80's writing his revisionist literature about the holocaust never happening. We've all heard this kind of crap before, it's considered a hate crime and Ernst got charged under Canadian laws.

One unfortunate thing about being Canadian is that our justice system really sucks because it is so enemic. Good old Ernst escaped with basically a slap on the wrist, fortunately his legal expenses were enormous. Thats one thing our justice system is good at, making lawyers money. Anyway after years of fighting court battles, Ernst finally got sick of Canada and went down south with a visa.

Ernst's visa has just expired, so the Americans ship this work of art up to the Rainbow bridge and put him on our doorstep. We don't want him either, our government wants to deport him back to his country of origin. Well Germany is known to have the toughest anti-hate crime laws in the world. so what does Ernst do? Applies for refugee status to stay in Canada. Right now he's sitting in the Thorold Detention Center awaiting a ruling from our Immigration people wich could take months, years to arrive at. In the meantime the tax payers of Canada have to pay for this guy. I say ship him home and let the Germans deal with him.