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  Door to Door: Tit for Tat

  by SixofNine in

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  this is too good not to share.

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  click here: how do you like it?.

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  Sargon

  thats so funny it brought me in from the cold.

  Haven't been here in a while... Waves hi to all!!!!
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  "Family Forever" cross-stich ... what do I do with it?

  by kwintestal in

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  2. family

  years ago my parents gave us a framed cross stich with our last name and "family forever" on it as the main part of the picture.. since then, my parents have shunned us completely.

  i'm thinking of returning it to them in the mail with a letter saying something like, "i guess you didn't mean it when you gave this to us so there's no point in us having this.

  " is that over the top?.

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  Sargon

  I'd hang it on the wall if i were you. but first you should examine it carefully for fine print
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  Examples of JW Circular Reasoning

  by ColdRedRain in

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  i'll start.

  the bible is god's word.

  how do we know that the bible is god's word?

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  Sargon

  Ummm been a few years since I saw a bible but:

  He that doesn't know god, doesn't know love... for god is love.

  Isn't this the same dude who destroyed the world in Noahs time?

  for instructions he'd neglected to give yet... oh yes Adam... don't eat this fruit... but also don't fornicate or prevaricate, or masterbate...

  as l;ong as you dont forget the date...]

  Nisan 14... always look on the bright side of life
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  JWD theme Song... with Rod's permission pending....

  by Sargon in

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  2. friends

  listening to this, if rod was talking to the society instead of an unfaithful lover... this would make alot of sense:.

  if i listened long enough to you,.

  i'd find a way to believe that it's all true.. knowing that you lied, straight-faced, while i cried,.

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  Sargon

  Listening to this, if Rod was talking to the society instead of an unfaithful lover... this would make alot of sense:

  If I listened long enough to you,
  I'd find a way to believe that it's all true.
  Knowing that you lied, straight-faced, while I cried,
  Still I'd look to find a reason to believe.
  Someone like you makes it hard to live without somebody else.
  Someone like you makes it easy to give, never think of myself.
  
  If I gave you time to change my mind,
  I'd find a way to leave the past behind.
  Knowing that you lied, straight-faced, while I cried,
  Still I'd look to find a reason to believe.
  Someone like you makes it hard to live without somebody else.
  Someone like you makes it easy to give, never think of myself.
  
  Someone like you makes it hard to think about somebody else....
  If I listened long enough to you,
  I'd find a way to believe that it's all true.
  I'd find a reason, a reason to believe. (oh no)
  And though I want you, you're just not what I need......
  
  Someone like you makes it hard to live without somebody else.
  Someone like you makes it easy to give, never think of myself.
  Someone like you makes it hard to live without somebody else.
  Someone like you, like you......
  I'd find a reason to believe.......
  
  I would find a reason to believe....

  Steve

  heathen deluxe
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  The Star Spangled Banner

  by rebel8 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  oh, say, can you see, by the dawn's early light,.

  what so proudly we hailed at the twilight's last gleaming?.

  whose broad stripes and bright stars, thro' the perilous fight;.

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  Freedoms... are not guranteed in the US constitution.
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  Free-will V.S predestiny

  by Sargon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it's been a long-long time since i shared any deep thoughts on religion... so please bear with me.

  i was fishing this morning...since they weren't biting it gave me time to ponder;.

  one of the concepts that caused me to leave the x-tian faith is the conundrum that boggles my mind when i consider free-will.. i've made the argument in the past that adam didn't have any free-will in the garden of eden.

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  Sargon

  That reply makes absolutely no sense at all. Perhaps if i smoke a joint, I may understand what you mean,
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  Free-will V.S predestiny

  by Sargon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it's been a long-long time since i shared any deep thoughts on religion... so please bear with me.

  i was fishing this morning...since they weren't biting it gave me time to ponder;.

  one of the concepts that caused me to leave the x-tian faith is the conundrum that boggles my mind when i consider free-will.. i've made the argument in the past that adam didn't have any free-will in the garden of eden.

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  Sargon

  It's been a long-long time since i shared any deep thoughts on religion... so please bear with me.
  i was fishing this morning...since they weren't biting it gave me time to ponder;
  One of the concepts that caused me to leave the X-tian faith is the conundrum that boggles my mind when i consider free-will.
  I've made the argument in the past that Adam didn't have any free-will in the garden of Eden.
  Now, keep in mind, i do realize that this is all mythology... but since so many choose to treat this as historical fact; i will deal with it on this basis.
  
  Most of the genesis account, is written vaguely, and in generalities. But the gospels can be quite specific at times in the events of jesus' life.
  
  If Christ knew that peter would disown him 3 times before the cock crowed; then this means that peter's actions were pre-ordained, and therefore peter didn't have any free-will.
  IF by chance, peter had not disowned Christ... then Christ would have been wrong... and hence imperfect.
  If christ were imperfect... then the whole basis of christianity would not make sense. IE... the point in christs life, was to be a sacrifice to God... a perfect life in exchange for the perfect life Adam gave up.
  So Peter had no choice... once Christ made his prediction.

  My 2 cents on a fishing day
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  Mark a stage play?

  by peacefulpete in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  over the past 70 years a number of scholars have speculated that the gospel mark was witten as liturgical drama meant to be acted out.

  this has gained greater acceptance in recent years for good reasons.

  (the book of matt likewise has elements that seem to lend to this use.

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  Sargon

  Tom harpur takes this a stage further in his book 'the pagan Christ' ; in wich he claims that the whole Jesus story was a re-working of the horus/isis myth, and not meant to be taken literally.
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  Kwintestal --- The early years ***Warning - Long and possibly boring***

  by kwintestal in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  a lot of this i haven't ever discussed with anyone.

  this is virgin territory into kwin's head.

  for those on the board who know me (family and friends) i would appreciate if this could stay on the board as it has taken quite some time to build the courage to write some of this.. i guess i am somewhat of a 3rd generation jw, however my mom and grandmother became jw's in the mid to late 70's, shortly before i was born in 1978. my mom was 16 when she had me.

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  Sargon

  Wow Kwin... I know alot of this story, because i have lived alot of it with you. (I'm the evil uncle with the schnackenbocker BTW ... a snackenbcker is not a frisbee.) Anyway Kwin, you've filled in alot of gaps here. Wow i never realized how twisted some of your thinking was. Good to see you here dude.
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  Life of Brian

  by William Penwell in

  1. social
  2. humour

  hey i just watched for the first time, monty python's "life of brian".

  i know the film is 25 years old but being a dub we could never watch such a show.

  it was great the way it made fun of the biblical story of jesus.

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  Sargon

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