Posts by Fairlane

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GB "... it can make mistakes when explaining the Bible ..." Simplified version WT Feb 2017

by freddo in

study article: who is leading god's people today?

start of paragraph 12.. standard version: "the governing body is neither inspired nor infallible.

therefore, it can err in doctrinal matters or in organizational direction.".

Fairlane

Their greatest error of judgement was awarding THEMSELVES their own defined title of faithful and discreet slave, and their version of the authority which that title gives them. The admission that they are not inspired and are capable off error of judgement which in turn must imply capable of error in future judgement should not bar ANYONE from questioning their judgement, which if NOT inspired should be held to scrutiny without consequence . Any action against persons questioning their authority /reasoning resulting in some form of sanction is therefore unjustifiable as said persons are subject to the very same conditions of non inspirational judgement /reasoning whether in error or correct. They (the jw hierarchy ) have by way of their own published statements have no authority over anyone .

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Will Jehovah`s Witnesses join with other religions in Compensation Payouts ?

by smiddy in

justice mcclellen asked g.jackson about compensation for victims of child abuse , and mcclellan suggested it be by a consortium of groups , presumably religious and secular in nature as a pool to dispense approppiate compensation to all of the victims involved .. g.jackson hesitated and said they would have to look at the details of that proposal , before committing to it.. jehovah`s witnesses consider themselves as the only true religion and ,all others as false religion .. they take pains to separate themselves from from any association with other religions , not even being included in newspaper notices about church services.they want to keep themselves separate and distinct from false religion as they see them.. so how do you think they will handle this suggestion / requirement ?

will they join in aligning themselves with "babylon the great" in compensation .?.

didn`t they align themselves with another religion in the u.s.a. some years ago , that had to do with the w.t.

Fairlane

Slightly off topic but on the point of wtbts aligning themselves with other religious organisations , i recollect that they printed and published bibles for thailand bible society /American bible society which were not donated but transacted under normal buying and selling rules.....they also sit with other religious organisations regarding world religious freedoms... Therefore they will align with 'babylon the great' when it suits their own aims .... hypocritical charlatans !!

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Imperfect Spiritual Food

by berrygerry in

the feb 2017 wt is being reviewed here because of the "neither inspired nor infallible" potential of the gb.. https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6237447308443648/major-doctrinal-changes-must-on-way.

this indeed has been stated in the past.. an equally interesting phrase in that paragraph is: "of course, jesus did not tell us that his faithful slave would produce perfect spiritual food.".

again, wt is using the "jesus never said" line.. what would make more sense is: "jesus never said that the food would be imperfect or harmless.".

Fairlane

" jesus did not tell us" ...in other words jesus did not think it was worthy of mentioning . How blatantly crass is that form of reasoning, what jesus didn't say is an open book for any idiot to uphold their own presumptios, then again what can we expect from this organisation of hypocritical charlatans !!

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If the GB changed a major teaching, would all witnesses just go along with it?

by stuckinarut2 in

so if the gb changed its "bible based beliefs" on some teaching, would witnesses all of a sudden change their individual beliefs too?.

witnesses like to claim that "their bible trained hearts and minds" make them believe as they do, but we know that the reality is that all witnesses hold their "deep seated beliefs" according to what they have been told to believe.. so what would cause the average witness to question those that dictate their "personal convictions"??.

thoughts?.

Fairlane

Possibly not all, but the 'brother' i was speaking to at the trolley /cart pitch would, he told me in no uncertain terms that he would follow any new 'truths' spouted by the faithful slave / gb, therefore he has already made up his mind to go along with the 'organisations teachings without even the knowledge of its content !! the mind boggles!!

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Pyramid Schemes

by schnell in

several years ago, i was introduced to a "wonderful" company called fortune hi tech marketing by a brother and his wife.

they had been introduced by a former sheriff who claims he had researched the company and found no leins or judgments, and that former sheriff had been brought in by a pastor.

you can read what happened with fhtm on wikipedia if you so desire.. this whole new idea of multilevel marketing had my brain reeling, though, and soon enough, i actually signed up with none other than prepaid legal.

Fairlane

I knew a lot of witnesses who became involved with amway products . A member of my family became so convinced of its merits he persevered relentlessly refusing to believe it would fail.... big disappointment followed, but of course everyone else was to blame !! The same person is now big on conspiracy theories of every description ,also still claims jws have the truth although is completely inactive and lives a life completely contrary to their teachings...go figure !!

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Elder Arrest Scaremongering

by jw07 in

last week there was a meeting with all the elders and ministerial servants about responsibility in the kingdom hall and blah blah blah.. one elder brought up a scenario where all the elders were arrested, and we were asked if the meeting would still go on, and how.. this is the second time within a month that i've heard that scenario posed by an elder in my congregation.. does anyone have any idea of the trash being fed to them in letters recently?.

is this a scenario that hq is putting out there, or are the fear mongering convention videos driving their imaginations wild?.

Fairlane

"Driving their imaginations wild ".....since when has it been any different? The imagination s of these zealots give them their reason d' etre !!.

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Stocks and Shares of the WTB&TS

by Truthexplorer in

watch the following video from 6 minutes 50 seconds to find out.. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=i0lrdx3vpug.

a woman wrote to the guy refuting his research.

here is his reply to back up his proof.. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=woqjxehuppq.

Fairlane

If the trust was turned over to watchtower in 1970 and Riley was already dead, who owns the stock ? That's a no brainer !!

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Any Peugeot owners around here?

by Mandrake in

i was wondering since there are a lot of uk users (at first i didn't notice that) if there is some peugeot owners here, clearly not from the us, the brand and also citroën has no presence in north america... in my city (santiago) you can see almost every car brand from chinese to european... in my apartment's parking lot there are toyotas, hondas, a porsche (that is abandoned, a carrera 911 turbo from 1989), even an old lancia, alfa romeo, nissan, renault, citroën, a camaro, suzuki, sköda, bmw, an old mecerdes, daewoos, kias, hyundais, an old vw beetle and a scirocco, few chinese, an audi, a dodge ram.

even a maserati in a house two blocks away etc etc.. and my 307 :)

Fairlane

In the Columbo detective series, the beat up car he drove was a 59 Peugeot 403 convertible. It seemed to match his dishevelled appearance as i recall. Presently i drive a Peugeot 308sw (sport wagon ) deisel, my wife has just taken delivery of a Peugeot 2008 crossover also deisel. I have also owned a Citroën C5 estate (shooting brake ) it was very good .

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I'm just a 'visitor'

by galaxie in

i'm signed in and can use the 'have your say 'box on my android phone,but on my tablet i cannot sign in...the sign in form does not recognize my user name, therefore i'm seen as just a visitor.

any advice would be welcome thankyou..

Fairlane

Thank you for reply Simon...I only have 'have your say ' box using chrome although i had to sign in as fairlane ( i had not signed out ) ...using stock browser with samsung tablet the have your say is non existent .I can still use galaxie user name and reply as normal on my android sony xperia but it's a not ideal. Is it ok to operate with two user names, although I'd have to avoid talking to myself lol cheers.

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I'm just a 'visitor'

by galaxie in

i'm signed in and can use the 'have your say 'box on my android phone,but on my tablet i cannot sign in...the sign in form does not recognize my user name, therefore i'm seen as just a visitor.

any advice would be welcome thankyou..

Fairlane

Why not try registering using another user name .... although you may acquire a dual personality ....ok I'll take the chance cheers .... nae bother don't mention it happy to help .... hello again thanks for the advice... it worked !!!