Hopefully some will see that although they admit to not being inspired and err in judgement, their claim that they are the faithful and discreet slave is derived also from non inspiration and may well be an error of judgement. They (the jws ) must therefore ask themselves by what means do the governing body claim this title, it follows it can only be guesswork. If the jws want to accept that ,then more fool them. The brain is very capable of deceiving oneself when to accept the contrary position can be a very emotional and stressful journey.
Fairlane
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Mass JW exodus
by stockholm_Syndrome inmaybe there will be a mass exodus from jws when thinking people read feb 2017 watchtower telling them the governing body stuff up, shouldnt expect correct/ perfect information and basically make up guff as they see fit.....ya reckon?.
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"While I love my two children very much, I feel today I should never have had them."
by running_away inthis is interesting:.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-38145118.
"a whole lot of the time, i just don't like being a mother, and i generally don't fit well into this role.".
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Fairlane
Parenthood is primarily not about enjoyment but the love and care for innocent lives who are ultimately the responsibility of the parents. Enjoyment of this experience of rearing children is only part of the emotions involved most of which is unselfish hard work which hopefully produces well balanced adults which brings its own rewards as well as a good helping of heartache sometimes. Those who do not wish to have children take a decision for many reasons which are understandable, but to produce children and have regrets is a different ballgame.
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"While I love my two children very much, I feel today I should never have had them."
by running_away inthis is interesting:.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-38145118.
"a whole lot of the time, i just don't like being a mother, and i generally don't fit well into this role.".
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Fairlane
Regretting a type of life you may have had without the children you now have, or regretting having children because they now cramp your style is imo at the least a disregard for the value of their innocent existence. ..anyone thinking this way should have a serious talk with themselves.
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"While I love my two children very much, I feel today I should never have had them."
by running_away inthis is interesting:.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-38145118.
"a whole lot of the time, i just don't like being a mother, and i generally don't fit well into this role.".
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Fairlane
If anyone feels that their children are a drag, it points to a flaw in the parents ability to understand the needs of their children who after all had no decision in their own birth. While selfishness is inherent in us all its better for the child that the parent curbs their own selfish regrets or desires and fully embraces the love,care and needs of their offspring which will benefit both parents and children. I am a father and grandfather and have never had regrets,my heart is full of joy when i think of them absolutely no regret enters my mind. -
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If You Could Ask the GB Or One Of Its Members...
by Cold Steel in...one question about anything and get a straight answer, what would it be?
historical, philosophical, theological, eschatological, anything.
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Fairlane
I have interesting conversation at the cart/trolley pitch with this very question . I paint a scenario of the gb standing with us ie 2 brothers and myself + 7 gb members standing together... all of us not inspired , not infallible and confess to making errors of judgement in biblical interpretation / understanding , i then ask the two brothers ,what differentiates us in terms of claiming to be the fds. At my last discussion one brother just outright said he takes their word for it through his faith !!? the other brother kept quite with a kind of spaced out look on his face. I felt at that moment a sense of vindication of my own reasons for not following these hypocritical charlatans .
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Hi forum
by A Believer ini proably shouldnt be on here but i feel like saying this.
i have been for the last couple weeks been studying religion.
i've learned the only ones who today do what the bible says to is jw.
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Fairlane
Theocratic warfare.... may also be defined as .... lying through your teeth !
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Elders/Ex-Elders: Question about Blood
by JWdaughter inafter many years of objecting to the wt teachings on many levels, blood being one of them, i recently started to wonder (ok, i am slow!
) : what exactly does the wt think that the early non jewish christians were abstaining from in the blood abstention bit.
while i understand the context of the request that the apostle sent to the brothers, i do not understand what jws think they were abstaining from.. meat slaughtered improperly?.
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Fairlane
As an unbeliever,if i invite a jw for a meal and they accept, if i serve blood sausage (black pudding) according to 1st cor' 10:27 would they be ok to eat (if they wished) without fear of contradicting their view on blood consumption ?
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Shunning & separation from family
by CJxfarmx ini was raised in jw as a child.
my dad was a jw my mom was not, they are divorced now.
i was never baptized or anything but i stopped going once i had the choice at age 12. now i am 41 and my dad will not associate with me, my wife or my 3 kids.
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Fairlane
I totally sympathise with your situation , my own life and others of my family . . children grandchildren are all affected by this mind set of shunning at worst and setting of invisible barriers which create abnormal family feelings. It's my knowing that my feelings of love and togetherness are normal and harmonious as opposed to their enslaved beliefs which promote unnatural behaviour and feelings. They are ultimately the losers if they do not change.
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Did anyone else go to this weeks midweek meeting?
by NikL inin the congregation bible study, the book addressed how "truth" is progressive.... 18 just as jehovah progressively revealed truths about the kingdom in the period leading up to 1914, he continues to do so during the time of the end.
as chapters 4 and 5 of this book will show, over the past 100 years, god’s people have had to adjust their understanding on a number of occasions.
does that fact mean that they do not have jehovah’s backing?
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Fairlane
They keep harping on that jehovah..." refines their understanding " or" jehovah helps us to see". My question . ..by what method? and secondly is this new understanding the absolute final truth of the matter ? So... begs the obvious question why did jehovahs help in understanding crucial life saving information go so wrong previously . They now have publicly stated in their publications they are not inspired and they make errors of judgement concerning biblical understanding , it must follow therefore that any ' help ' from jehovah or holy spirit is unmitigated guesswork designed to keep their minions hooked on falsehood .
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GB "... it can make mistakes when explaining the Bible ..." Simplified version WT Feb 2017
by freddo instudy article: who is leading god's people today?
start of paragraph 12.. standard version: "the governing body is neither inspired nor infallible.
therefore, it can err in doctrinal matters or in organizational direction.".
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Fairlane
Their greatest error of judgement was awarding THEMSELVES their own defined title of faithful and discreet slave, and their version of the authority which that title gives them. The admission that they are not inspired and are capable off error of judgement which in turn must imply capable of error in future judgement should not bar ANYONE from questioning their judgement, which if NOT inspired should be held to scrutiny without consequence . Any action against persons questioning their authority /reasoning resulting in some form of sanction is therefore unjustifiable as said persons are subject to the very same conditions of non inspirational judgement /reasoning whether in error or correct. They (the jw hierarchy ) have by way of their own published statements have no authority over anyone .