Posts by FFGhost

41

Is the door to door preaching work not the primary focus anymore?

by pistolpete in

a few months back, one of my uncles who was an elder, asked the co, why jehovah would allow the door to door preaching work, to come to an abrupt end.

this was when my uncle was starting to have serious doubts about the organization.. the co told him to be patient, and hang in there, because the governing body was on top of things and in time would explain what is happening regarding the preaching work.. my uncle asked; “what do you mean?”.

co said; “focus on the wt study articles in the coming months” .

FFGhost

Just to clarify:

I don't think "the ministry" will ever end. It is far too important for JW hierarchy. It is a practically perfect form of "busy work" that provides an easy to understand numerical representation to measure someone's "spirituality". In WT-world, a person who accomplishes "70 hours" is, by definition, always, without exception, considered more spiritual than someone who accomplishes only "20 hours". The 20-hour guy is, without exception, viewed as "more spiritual" than the 5 hour publisher, etc. The lowest of the low are the "inactive", the 0-hour guys.

Measuring "how spiritual" someone is, and using that as the basis for judgements, rewards, praise, granting of "privileges", etc. is the fundamental core, the soul, of what being a JW is.

So I don't think "the ministry" will end.

What I do anticipate is a great shift in emphasis, away from door to door, and more toward carts, letters, and telephoning. I think it i quite possible, perhaps even probable, that nearly all JW "ministry" will be something other than door to door, save for a few uber-zealous guys, and the ones who live out in the boonies where there is just no place to reasonably place a "literature" cart.

41

Is the door to door preaching work not the primary focus anymore?

by pistolpete in

a few months back, one of my uncles who was an elder, asked the co, why jehovah would allow the door to door preaching work, to come to an abrupt end.

this was when my uncle was starting to have serious doubts about the organization.. the co told him to be patient, and hang in there, because the governing body was on top of things and in time would explain what is happening regarding the preaching work.. my uncle asked; “what do you mean?”.

co said; “focus on the wt study articles in the coming months” .

FFGhost

It would be an absolute bear to try to get rank & file JWs to go back to normal door to door work after pandemic restrictions end or are greatly reduced. The longer it goes on, the harder it will be to restart.

I suspect that door to door will be greatly de-emphasized and a lot more "cart witnessing" will be introduced, even in areas where it would seem really weird. I suspect any remaining "door to door" will be more like "farm to farm" out in the rurals, and most urban and suburban JWs (probably over 90% of the whole JW population anyway) will be "on the carts".

Most JWs I know just love the carts. You get to "count time", you are "visible in the ministry", but rarely have to actually speak to anyone. If anyone shows interest, you have a great experience to tell. If anyone gives you a hard time, the cart overseer (yes there are cart overseers) just packs up and moves to a different location.

So that's my prediction: in the future, a major emphasis on cart witnessing, and the vast majority of JWs won't do door to door ever again.

19

How on earth can WT lawyers continue to believe WT has God’s backing, when they see all the deception play out in Court.

by pistolpete in

here is a post on reddit from mark and kimmy o’ donnell, from the crusaders documentary,.

ask us anything.. mr. o'donnell gives his assessment of why wt lawyers continue to defend the child sex abuse cases that the organization continues to fight, even though they see firsthand the deception, the lies, the withholding of facts and dirty tactics used in court.

by an organization that claims to be god's earthly representative, and the only one to hold the truth.

FFGhost

Some people are really really REALLY good at compartmentalizing.

I think the law profession draws such folks disproportionately.

6

YHWH or is it HWHY ?

by zachias in

jw
friends

i ask this as hebrew is read from right to left.. reasonable input is welcome..

FFGhost

Hebrew is read right to left, but when you write the tetragrammaton in English using English letters, you write it left to right.

Not sure why this should be controversial.

38

New Approach to Discussing Deity of Christ with JW's

by Sea Breeze in

5:27; 9:59; 18:22; jn.

9:48; [21:8]; 24:47; jn.

21:12, 17;] jn.

FFGhost

Arguing about whether "interpretation A" or "interpretation B" of a Biblical verse is the "correct" one is the Socratic ideal of a fool's errand.

18

Triumph

by WTDeserter in

.

FFGhost

Isn't there something how the apostles drove a Honda?

They were all in one accord?

16

Where are the JWs on cross dressers?

by mickbobcat in

so if a man lets say is heterosexual, married and happy but likes to in the privacy of his own home wear women's cloths and his wife is ok with it.

i know a person could just shut their mouth and who would know but i am talking about jw who is very concerned about telling the truth to the dubbers.

my guess is it would not be a dfing matter but they would not be a ms or elder.

FFGhost

They've had assembly talks on the subject. A definite no-no.

It's not on the elder's manual list of DFing offenses though.

But if someone were idiot enough to engage in it and then for some reason feel compelled to admit to the elders, he'd be removed from every "privilege" possible (except, of course, the "privilege" of donating funds - somehow that one never gets restricted).

46

The unfolding crisis in Afghanistan is completely Joe Biden's fault, nobody else's

by LoveUniHateExams in

so, there's been a lot of talk on social media, blaming trump for the current crisis that began at the weekend.. it's a load of bullsh!t from deluded people who are desperate to blame anyone but joe biden, the idiot they voted for or at least wanted to win last november.. there is only one person, just one person, to blame: joe biden.. he has the heavy burden of making tough presidential decisions.. and after this debacle, it's reasonable to ask if he's up to making such decisions..

FFGhost

I dunno, I think the president who started the #$%^! thing 20 years ago ought to get a little of it.....

112

Afghanistan-Kabul falls to Taliban - U.S. Embassy staff evacuated by helicopter

by fulltimestudent in

jw
friends

in a scene reminiscent of the fall of saigon, the usa embassy staff have been evacuated by helicopter.. for a third time in asia ( a fourth, if you count usa supported chiang kai shek's defeat in mainland china) usa supported forces have been defeated.

more than 1 trillion dollars wasted and a huge deathtoll (both sides) afghanistan is back to where it started,.

will the taliban behave differently this time ?

FFGhost

Fascinating article with an unexpected reason why Afghanistan fell so fast. Don't know how much I agree with it, but at the very least it makes some solid points.

Did America just lose Afghanistan because of WhatsApp? – Preston Byrne

So what the hell happened?

.....

WhatsApp is an American product. It can be switched off by its parent, Facebook, Inc, at any time and for any reason. The fact that the Taliban were able to use it at all, quite apart from the fact that they continue to use it to coordinate their activities even now as American citizens’ lives are imperiled by the Taliban advance which is being coordinated on that app, suggests that U.S. military intelligence never bothered to monitor Taliban numbers and never bothered to ask Facebook to ban them.

13

The parable of the trees! (Judges 9:8-15

by slimboyfat in

do you recall reading this passage before?

i came across this it yesterday while preparing a bible presentation on trees.

i had no idea this passage existed.

FFGhost

the deeper meaning of the passage

Well. something was pretty deep in Rutherford's ~~ramblings~~ writings.