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  2022-08-09-Announcement!

  by Atlantis in

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  2. friends

  2022-08-09-announcement.. click image to enlarge.. .

  https://postimg.cc/th27pzyh.

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  FFGhost

  “No one should feel pressured to participate in any specific method of preaching”

  What a heaping, steaming pile of codswallop.

  More accurately, “no one should feel pressured, until 4 months from now when the inevitable letter is sent in which we scold you and tell you how ungrateful, unspiritual, and just plain inferior you all are for not jumping for joy and performing as we have commanded from on high”.

  In the very same letter, just 4 paragraphs later, is direction for a “local needs” part in 2 weeks to pound, pound, POUND into the minds of everyone how ungrateful, unspiritual, and just plain inferior they are for not attending meetings in person. THE VERY SAME LETTER.

  Whatever happened to the point from the March 12 announcement, “Personal choices regarding vaccination and whether to attend in person should be respected”?

  Gad, what a bunch of wankers.

  I’ll bet every asset I own that no later than January there will be an urgent “what is wrong with you people? Get out in the door to door work right now, you miserable worms” announcement to be read 2 or 4 or 8 times after meetings, followed by “local needs” presenting the same information as if the issue is reading comprehension rather than lack of interest in doing the pointless door to door work.

  Mark this post. Circle it in red and tape it to your wall. No later than January - “Why aren’t you miserable worms doing what we told you?”

  Morons.
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  Woke Up Feeling Poetic, so an ExJW Poem

  by Simon in

  1. jw
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  come here you heavy hearted who departed from the truth your youth and family trapped you in.. no need to fear that armageddons near and you will be forgotten as a rotten failure to your kin.. the freedom that you took is nothing that a crusty book can ever realistically replace.. so stand up tall, tell all who need to hear that it is them who fear to look you in the face..

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  FFGhost

  Prostetnic Vogon Jeltz would be proud!
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  Online Lesson: Why does suffering and evil exist?

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  bible teachings.

  online lessons.

  basic bible teachings.

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  FFGhost

  The compact reason, for those with short attention spans:

  Because 6000 years ago, a talking snake convinced a naked lady to eat a piece of fruit.
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  Resuming door to door September 1st

  by Mikejw in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  gb worried about not enough coming to in person meetings.

  what are they going to be like when they realise not only jdubs don’t want to go to in person meetings but they really don’t want to go back on the min.

  zoom has so much more appeal for rather than meetings or door to door.

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  FFGhost

  I know “car groups” aren’t a “thing” in many parts of the world, but it’s a central part of “door to door work” in North America.

  Can you imagine the “fun” of (depending on the size of the vehicle) 4,5,6 or even 7 JWs crammed into a small enclosed unventilated space (interior of a vehicle) for hours at a time?

  If anyone has anything remotely contagious, it’ll be like riding in an incubation tube.

  JWs are still expected to wear masks at the Kingdom Hall. Are they going to wear them in their “car groups” too?
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  2022-07-29-Announcement!

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  2022-07-29-announcements--english.

  2022-07-29-announcements-spanishpage 2, par.

  3. on the other hand, some brothers and sisters—younger and in good health—have more favorable circumstances that may allow them to attend christian meetings regularly at the kingdom hall.

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  FFGhost

  Just a brief update:

  Last night was the first meeting since the royal decree from the gb about “thou shalt attend at the Kingdom Hall unless you are a quadruple amputee with active tuberculosis”.

  You’ll be happy to know the announcement made absolutely zero difference. In-person attendance was still about 40% of the total congregation, actually would have been even lower if not for a few visitors.

  Added bonus: the announcement was read again, but the meeting was running late so it was read in a rushed bland monotone, giving it all the weight it deserves - virtually none.

  The CO decreed that it be read yet again, a 3rd time, after Sunday’s WT, because “there is a real need in the circuit”.

  Looking forward to the complete lack of desired response.

  Hey maybe they should just read it before and after every meeting for the next 3 months?
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  House-to-House Resumes Sep 1 2022

  by Smiles in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  breaking news | house-to-house preaching will resume on september 1, 2022. the governing body is pleased to announce that the house-to-house preaching work of jehovah’s witnesses will resume on september 1, 2022. we pray for jehovah’s rich blessing to be with all of you as we resume our house-to-house ministry!.

  https://www.jw.org/en/news/jw/#newsalerts.

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  FFGhost

  Governing Body update #8, December 2022

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  Letter to all elders, dated December 1, 2022:

  ”It has been observed that many publishers continue to merely write letters on Zoom rather than share in the vital life-saving never to be repeated highly important crucial door to door work. Why do so many lack appreciation for this grand privilege of praising the universal sovereign? Let us give you a list of 20 or 30 scriptures telling you what your problem is. Here you go….Now after meditating on those thought provoking texts, aren’t you ashamed of yourselves? Now get busy, you miserable worms.”

  ”P.S. We love each of you very much.”
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  2022-07-29-Announcement!

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  2022-07-29-announcements--english.

  2022-07-29-announcements-spanishpage 2, par.

  3. on the other hand, some brothers and sisters—younger and in good health—have more favorable circumstances that may allow them to attend christian meetings regularly at the kingdom hall.

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  FFGhost

  Yeah, there’s a lot of grumbling by elders who now have carry the roving microphones, adjust the platform, handle the sound board, etc. due to the “lack of warm bodies” physically present at the KH.

  But that has nothing to do with this divine edict. The GB don’t give a flying fig about elders having to do grunt work.

  What worries them is that they said “jump” and a majority, a literal majority, of JWs have responded, not with a “how high?”, but with a “F you”.

  I detect a real tone of flop sweat and near-desperation in the GB commandment letter. I’m sure their stomachs are churning as they contemplate “what do we do next, if this doesn’t work?”
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  2022-07-29-Announcement!

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  2022-07-29-announcements--english.

  2022-07-29-announcements-spanishpage 2, par.

  3. on the other hand, some brothers and sisters—younger and in good health—have more favorable circumstances that may allow them to attend christian meetings regularly at the kingdom hall.

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  FFGhost

  Plus they are probably shooting themselves in the foot. There are a number of people who started attending on Zoom who would never have attended meetings at the KH.

  In the local nearby congregation, Zoom attendance during the pandemic was easily 120% or more of the count of “publishers”, I.e. just about everyone associated with the congregation plus kids plus Bible studies (in most congregations you need about 110 -130% attendance to account for non-publisher kids & studies).

  Since the decree from on high at the beginning of April:

  — Attendance is consistently 30-40% in person, 60-70% on Zoom

  — Adding both in-person and Zoom attendance, it’s back down to the pre-pandemic levels (80-90% of the publisher count attending the meetings).

  I’m not sure if that is typical elsewhere, but here, the publishers are not only defying the “thou shalt meet in person” edict but also just generally blowing off meetings entirely, in-person and Zoom.

  I’m sure it’s occurred to at least some of them, “if they don’t see me on zoom, they’ll assume I am at the KH….and if they don’t see me at the KH, they’ll assume I’m on Zoom”.
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  2022-07-29-Announcement!

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  2022-07-29-announcements--english.

  2022-07-29-announcements-spanishpage 2, par.

  3. on the other hand, some brothers and sisters—younger and in good health—have more favorable circumstances that may allow them to attend christian meetings regularly at the kingdom hall.

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  FFGhost

  I called this months ago, within days of the “resuming in person meetings” announcement. The only mildly surprising thing is that I thought these “the beatings will continue until morale improves” messages wouldn’t start until autumn.

  JWs are staying away in droves, in just about every congregation in in just about every country. Most congregations have far less than half of their publishers attending in person. Many times it is 1/3 or less, always worse for the “midweek meeting”.

  What did these morons (the GB) expect? It is far easier, far more comfortable, far less expensive to attend via Zoom.

  The bozos closed congregations, sold Kingdom Halls, obligated JWs to drive ever farther distances to meet in a KH where they know half or less of their newly merged congregation, during a worldwide inflation spike where fuel prices are a primary cause…and they think people are going to rejoice because 8 sweaty old men decreed they should go back to “normal”?

  The messages will be more frequent and far more harsh as time goes on and the desired effect is not seen. Of course, there isn’t a full brain among the lot of them (the GB), so their only reaction will be to do EXACTLY as they have always done, repeat the same messages over and over and over and over and over….

  ”Maybe the 87th time we tell them to go back to the KH, they’ll listen!”

  Idiots.
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  Unmarried couple staying at my house

  by suavojr in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i need your help with this topic.

  i’m trying to find an elder’s letter or wt article that frown upon a good standing jw allowing an unmarried couple to stay over their house for the night.. my wife claims this is a conscience matter and i say that’s bs, this leadership does not allow it.

  would like to find this info..

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  FFGhost

  I think what the OP is asking is, what are the consequences for a JW who knowingly permits, as houseguests, an unmarried couple (not JW) to stay overnight in their (the JW’s) home.

  There’s a whole section on this in the elders manual, chapter 12 (particularly 12:66-69). That publication is available on dozens of websites so I won’t post links here. But here is the outline:

  — If the elders find out about it, they’re supposed to “counsel” the JWs who are allowing apparent “fornication” in their home

  — Hopefully, the JWs respond and kick out the fornicating couple

  — If the JWs “brazenly” defy the elders and allow the formicating couple to remain as houseguests, they (the JWs) would be subject to a “marking talk” and lose any “privileges of service” they may have

  — If the JWs go a step farther and “promote immortality” by talking about their situation to others in the congregation, they could be subject to a judicial committee for “causing divisions”

  — A (grudging) exception is made for special cases, such as elderly JW parents allowing a non-JW son/ daughter + unmarried partner to stay in the home. But even in that case, the elderly JW parents would be subject to “review” of any “privileges of service”.

  Hope that helps.